Sick Of Windows, Thinking of getting a Mac!

I've used the os yes. I Prefer xp, so would certainly not spend money buying a mac when I can get a pc more powerfull for less.

BillytheImpaler said:
I'm quite sure it was you. I got rather tired of it so you were the only poster to ever grace my block list. I thought I was being a bit harsh so I expunged the list.
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Checking my thread subscription list I haven't even posted in any mac thread this or last month. People will have their opinions and your not going to like them all its a free country, but I haven't been trolling.
 
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How is telling someone normal laptops give better performance for the price than mac ones trolling? It isn't.

As for the others, your kidding right? Seriously I just offered a suggestion, naturally If you own a mac your going to have a different perspective on the price but me and a lot of others think they are overpriced and not good value for money, its an opinion not trolling. If you think I'm trolling then half the people on the forum must be trolling.
 
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Energize said:
How is telling someone normal laptops give better performance for the price than mac ones trolling? It isn't.

As for the others, your kidding right? Seriously I just offered a suggestion, naturally If you own a mac your going to have a different perspective on the price but me and a lot of others think they are overpriced and not good value for money, its an opinion not trolling.
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Mac users are usually self absorbed big headed people who take it personally other people slate Mac's.

I think PC's are rubbish as in no set standard, however that's good in a way. In the past Windows has been pretty rubbish and unstable, it's a bit bloatware now (close to 1.4GB) Mac's lack games and not as widely available software. Mac's are overpriced though, I do not wish to pay considerable % of the machine into fancy case design. The OS looks like a childs OS as well that you get with a speak and spell type toy/laptop

Then Mac owners get aggressive. :rolleyes:
 
BillytheImpaler said:
How important is the act of designing? Is it possible to troll without realizing it?
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Yes, but as far as I can see I'm not. If someone said that about something I owned I wouldn't be bothered, I certainly wouldn't say its trolling if they didn't think windows was good value for money. If I said macs are **** then I agree it would be trolling, I never said macs were bad simply they weren't good value for money.

Would you say someone calling the ageia physx processor bad value for money was trolling? If we were comparing 2 windows pcs one with higher specs than the other for less money and I said the same thing I'm willing to bet you wouldn't say its trolling.
 
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squiffy said:
Mac users are usually self absorbed big headed people who take it personally other people slate Mac's.

I think PC's are rubbish as in no set standard, however that's good in a way. In the past Windows has been pretty rubbish and unstable, it's a bit bloatware now (close to 1.4GB) Mac's lack games and not as widely available software. Mac's are overpriced though, I do not wish to pay considerable % of the machine into fancy case design. The OS looks like a childs OS as well that you get with a speak and spell type toy/laptop

Then Mac owners get aggressive. :rolleyes:
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I'm posting this from Windows XP SP2. I work with Windows machines all day long. I also service Macs and Linux machines. I don't think I'm a "self absorbed big headed [person] who take it personally [when] other people slate Mac's (sic)."

Who's trolling now?
 
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mac crashes are always hardware related like memory errors or hard drive failiers.
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In that case, there's a lot of faulty Macs out there.

Two of my housemates are Mac users, and I've used their Macs a fair bit for various stuff. They're fairly nice machines and OSX is decent enough, but having used it extensively, it's done nothing to make me switch. Windows XP still feels far more versatile and intuitive to me, and I like PC hardware (specifically, the ability to choose what hardware you want) too much to make it feasable anyway.

Did look at getting a Mac notebook at one point, just for something new to play around with (already have a PC, wanted a notebook too), but contrary to what some are saying they DO cost more, and that's what put me off. Went with a Dell 630m for £530, which is a reasonably similar machine (and still small enough to be easily portable), so I got what I wanted in the end.

In any case, if you're considering a switch, I'd say you should probably use one extensively first. It'll give you a real insight into OSX, and will potentially remove any false impressions you already have (such as "it never crashes").
 
had a quick play on a mates mac,

bought one a week later, spent a week learning the different layout etc... it's actually extremely intuitive to navigate around and makes so much more sense to me now then windows ever did.

i have both a windows PC and a mac, and i never use the windows pc, in fact i really should sell it.

i love OS X and cant understand the mac bashing that goes on from windows users - yes it may be more expensive but you get what you pay for....
 
right, let's get this back on track please. No more argueing and pointless off topic posting. If you think a member is trolling, report it to the mod team please
 
Broadbandplacey said:
had a quick play on a mates mac,

bought one a week later, spent a week learning the different layout etc... it's actually extremely intuitive to navigate around and makes so much more sense to me now then windows ever did.

i have both a windows PC and a mac, and i never use the windows pc, in fact i really should sell it.

i love OS X and cant understand the mac bashing that goes on from windows users - yes it may be more expensive but you get what you pay for....
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Good for you :)

I use both side by side, and have done for years. Mac has never let me down.

RE: Software. It's there if you look, 99% of the time there is a OS X equiv.

RE: Built down to a price. IBM processor, Samsung Ram ICs (Crucial + Kingston sticks, Samsung PSU, Foxconn mobo, Sony/Pioneer drives, solid cases, ATi gfx cards in my PM G4.

Hardly built down to a price is it? Same with G5s. Intel mobos, intel chips, intel gfx/ati gfx in the new Intel macs, hardly cheap is it?

What mac does is find componants that work FLAWLESSLY. My dad always says he will pay extra if you know it will work. I can buy a G5 tomorrow, KNOWING it WILL work. Can't do that with a custom PC. and with pre-built well, value for money?

OS X is £60, instead of £200 - why? Win XP is £200 for a retail version! I've messed around with OS X so much yet it still works. Install time of 30 mins! Around 1 hour for my X2/74Gb Raptor start to finish for XP. No registry to corrupt, can't delete system files without a password. Apps arn't installed, jus deltee the prefs + app folder and its pretty much gone, although some programs have app support folders)

Yes OS X lacks games, but eventually some big titles make it across. Civ 4, Sims and Sims2, Total Annalation... etc etc etc

Maybe I am a bit of a fanboy, but then I have a right to be. As i've experienced both for over 10 years, side by side. Even OS 9 and below IMO was better than XP.

Nearly 4 years down the line my macs STILL worth £200/300. Same PC spec would be £100/200 probably.

PCs crash because of one thing. Compatibilty. Drivers, systems, programs have to cater for MILLIONS and MILLIONS of configurations, there are conflicts and always will be with this situation. Macs have no BIOS to corrupt either, no wrong configurations. THis BIOS doesn't like this chip and this mobo doesn't like this gfx card or mem. :rolleyes:

OS X has failed on the new Intel macs, because its a newish system on new hardware, apple have only just started (within a year) really developing x86 OS X.

Gen 2 and 3, and Mac OS X 10.6 WILL be much better :)

*sigh* thats a lot of typing :)
 
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My girlf and I will be buying mac sometimes soon, not sure which one though. Of course, I will probably keep PC as well, for web designs testing.

Windows XP is fine by me but Vista seemed to be a big let-down. Not that it is to do with delays but due to ridicously excessive system requirements. Some claimed it is because of eye candy interface but apple does it better with much lower system requirements. Microsoft begins to drop some features during beta development and in the end, it got me thinking that it's just same old Windows XP with eye-candy and interface location changes.

After years of using Windows & knowing that old macs are crap but when I first played with OS X for a couple of hours, I realised how superior it is with lots of common senses in it.

Uninstall program? No need to, just drag application to the bin and you're done, with no hidden files/folder or registry keys whatsoever! (registry is a major negative part of Windows OS as many spywares uses it to their advantage). Thats one for a start and there are so much things on mac you'll appreciate, even some things you would never know these exist.

Of course there are many teething problem with intel mac because it is new platform for apple to work on and I'm sure that with many updates on the way or OS upgrade, it'll get better. Quote taken from Ken Rockwell's site:
Your Mac Gets Better with Time!

I'm still amazed: my 5-year-old desktop Mac keeps getting better and faster with time!

Unlike Windows machines that crawl to a screeching halt after which you throw them away, each time I've done an easy major operating system upgrade to my Macs they run better and faster!

I'm serious: I bought my dual G4 desktop in 2000 with OS9. I upgraded it to OSX 10.2 and it did everything twice as fast. Today I'm on OS 10.4 and it runs faster still. I just can't believe these Apple guys. Apple doesn't understand planned obsolescence the way the good people of Microsoft do.
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From http://www.kenrockwell.com/apple/why-pros-use-mac.htm
 
Without intending to stir this argument at all (honestly), that Ken Rockwell article really is a load of nonsense in places. Clearly a completely biased, unreasonable and somewhat pathetic attack on Windows users. As usual.

If Windows was really as bad as some Mac users make it out to be, we'd never have any time to actually use our PCs, because we'd be forver fighting off spyware, viruses, hardware failures, and trying to figure out how to do anything because we're all too stupid to figure out a simple menu system.

Macs are nice in their own ways, just as Windows PCs are nice in their own ways. I don't really see one as being 100% superior over the other, but it seems some people do. Somehow.
 
TheVoice said:
Without intending to stir this argument at all (honestly), that Ken Rockwell article really is a load of nonsense in places. Clearly a completely biased, unreasonable and somewhat pathetic attack on Windows users. As usual.

If Windows was really as bad as some Mac users make it out to be, we'd never have any time to actually use our PCs, because we'd be forver fighting off spyware, viruses, hardware failures, and trying to figure out how to do anything because we're all too stupid to figure out a simple menu system.

Macs are nice in their own ways, just as Windows PCs are nice in their own ways. I don't really see one as being 100% superior over the other, but it seems some people do. Somehow.
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the difference between windows users and mac users is one of general taste
and thank god we all have different tastes or what a boring world it would be :D

I just wish their was a really good 3rd or 4th option
 
I have twenty years of experience with Windows software and hardware and somedays I pray for a mac of some kind - been toying with the idea of dual booting a macbook with XP but think they are a little too expensive for what they are - hoping OS X comes out as a seperate entity at some point but think thats unlikely.

It is still very possible to get a very reliable PC, as stated above just dont install things willy nilly and get a decent virus scanner etc and you should be ok.

I think XP and OS X from what I have seen and read are about equal over all somethings are better on one side than the other, but the truelly annoying thing about Mac's ( like Dell who also use proprietary kit) you cant install any hardware and its gaurenteed to work because of their own hardware design
 
TheVoice said:
Without intending to stir this argument at all (honestly), that Ken Rockwell article really is a load of nonsense in places. Clearly a completely biased, unreasonable and somewhat pathetic attack on Windows users. As usual.
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Sorry if Ken has ruffled your feathers. :p
 
squiffy said:
Mac users are usually self absorbed big headed people who take it personally other people slate Mac's.

I think PC's are rubbish as in no set standard, however that's good in a way. In the past Windows has been pretty rubbish and unstable, it's a bit bloatware now (close to 1.4GB) Mac's lack games and not as widely available software. Mac's are overpriced though, I do not wish to pay considerable % of the machine into fancy case design. The OS looks like a childs OS as well that you get with a speak and spell type toy/laptop

Then Mac owners get aggressive. :rolleyes:
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Haha. PC users also seem to hate Mac users with a vengance, for some odd reason. Just look at your post. Its comedy :D Mac threads seem to go down hill quickly simply because you get fanboys from both sides arguing years old arguements. Just like a PS3 thread.

The "childs OS" inspired countless ports of its looks to Windows, clearly a lot of Windows users prefer the OSX look. Macs only lack games because MS made DX. The same company that made Cedega for Linux has made some new software for OSX to allow games companies to easily port games to OSX. The whole Macs no play games thing will hopefully be a thing of the past.
 
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