Sick Of Windows, Thinking of getting a Mac!

Well Ken has a element of Truth, OS X ha been getting slightly faster with every release. I installed 10.2 on a BU hard-disk and 10.4 is very much smoother and noticibly quicker :D

But I wish my machine did get quicker with time, bought it as a dual 867, could be a dual 1.42 now :(

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cyKey said:
Haha. PC users also seem to hate Mac users with a vengance, for some odd reason. Just look at your post. Its comedy Mac threads seem to go down hill quickly simply because you get fanboys from both sides arguing years old arguements. Just like a PS3 thread.

Yep, and Im fueling it :D, but some PC people haven't used a mac for more than a day, how are they supposed to have a decent opinion in that time :rolleyes:
From friends that its bad, well, what friends tell you its good? I've got 4 that love there macs..

so on and so forth :o
 
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Freakish_05 said:
Is anyone acctually going to help me and give me some useful advice?

I am well aware that it could have been a hardware failure, but explain to me how everything was working fine (ish - bar certain display issues) until the point of system restore!

I do know my way around a computer you know, I even underclocked everything to try and get it to boot.

So I ask again:

For those of you who have switched from windows to a Mac system....What were your experiences? Was it worth it?

I bought a Mac in April (Mac mini for HTPC). I much prefer windows and when I buy Vista my copy of XP will go on my Mac. I find Windows much easier to use and as solid as a rock. I have never had a BSOD since switching from 98 to XP so the Mac can not be more stable.

PC's are also easier to repair and upgrade than a Mac if things do go wrong.
 
Hello, my name is GoldenGlory and i've been a Windows™ user since version 3.1.
Over the years, I have becoming increasingly frustrated with Windows™ and all its various issues. Recently, this all came to a head when Windows™ killed my PornDrive™ (see HDD forum) and on attempting to fix it, my boot drive also got corrupted.WHY?

Let's just say i'm moving to Mac this summer. Sure, Windows™ has its uses and you certainly can't escape it nowadays, but there is no way I will be personally running a Windows™ machine again.
 
What you need todo is come up with a list all the things Windows can do then all the things Mac can do then compare.

I personally prefer windows because I don't believe in spending a larger amount of money just because something looks good.

Take the top of the range Macbook pro.

It's specs are:
17-inch widescreen display

1680 x 1050 resolution

2.16GHz Intel Core Duo (1)

1GB (single SODIMM) 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM

120GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard drive

8x double-layer SuperDrive

ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 256MB GDDR3 memory

One FireWire 400, one FireWire 800, and three USB 2.0 ports

Which are pretty good but not all brilliant considering it costs £1900.

For £1570 you can get a the same if not better specced dell (17", 7900GTX, 1GB Ram, 2.16Ghz Intel Core Duo etc.)
 
UKTopGun said:
What you need todo is come up with a list all the things Windows can do then all the things Mac can do then compare.

I personally prefer windows because I don't believe in spending a larger amount of money just because something looks good.

Take the top of the range Macbook pro.

It's specs are:
17-inch widescreen display

1680 x 1050 resolution

2.16GHz Intel Core Duo (1)

1GB (single SODIMM) 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM

120GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard drive

8x double-layer SuperDrive

ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 256MB GDDR3 memory

One FireWire 400, one FireWire 800, and three USB 2.0 ports

Which are pretty good but not all brilliant considering it costs £1900.

For £1570 you can get a the same if not better specced dell (17", 7900GTX, 1GB Ram, 2.16Ghz Intel Core Duo etc.)

Aha, but you can run both OS X and Winblows.
Plus I dont want uber gfx power in a laptop. Start using that and your battery life is 1 hour. In low power mode I had 5 hours out of my iBook G4 :D
 
Concorde Rules said:
Aha, but you can run both OS X and Winblows.
Plus I dont want uber gfx power in a laptop. Start using that and your battery life is 1 hour. In low power mode I had 5 hours out of my iBook G4 :D

Ok then if you want to put it like that buy the £1270 version which is has a 2Ghz Core Duo instead and a 256 MB PCI-Express nVidia T GeForce 7900 GS.

So that £630 you save you could easily put it towards the faster CPU and even bigger HD :p.
 
Plus I dont want uber gfx power in a laptop. Start using that and your battery life is 1 hour. In low power mode I had 5 hours out of my iBook G4

A few of the Centrino laptops do have 5 hour running time, and they're usually quite affordable (IGP GFX) around £500, or less.
 
UKTopGun said:
What you need todo is come up with a list all the things Windows can do then all the things Mac can do then compare.

I personally prefer windows because I don't believe in spending a larger amount of money just because something looks good.

Take the top of the range Macbook pro.

It's specs are:
17-inch widescreen display

1680 x 1050 resolution

2.16GHz Intel Core Duo (1)

1GB (single SODIMM) 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM

120GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard drive

8x double-layer SuperDrive

ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 256MB GDDR3 memory

One FireWire 400, one FireWire 800, and three USB 2.0 ports

Which are pretty good but not all brilliant considering it costs £1900.

For £1570 you can get a the same if not better specced dell (17", 7900GTX, 1GB Ram, 2.16Ghz Intel Core Duo etc.)
Forget spec, you have completely missed the points of mac OS!

Add to that, Vista's min spec would be with 512mb (compared to XP's 64mb!)...so you would need at least 1GB as Vista will pull the performance back down and then coupled with Norton Anti-Virus, it'll sink even further down! :p
 
barnettgs said:
Forget spec, you have completely missed the points of mac OS!

Add to that, Vista's min spec would be with 512mb (compared to XP's 64mb!)...so you would need at least 1GB as Vista will pull the performance back down and then coupled with Norton Anti-Virus, it'll sink even further down! :p

Atleast 1GB will be absolutely fine by the time Vista is out... Nearly everybody has 2GB nowadays (Well anybody who plays games/uses photoshop or a movie editor).

Plus nobody said you need to run all the fancy features of Vista, like with XP you can just turn it to "Classic".
 
UKTopGun said:
Nearly everybody has 2GB nowadays (Well anybody who plays games/uses photoshop or a movie editor).
Hahahahahaahahaha!

I only know two people with more than 512 MiB RAM in their home computers. I think you greatly overestimate the general populace's tech-savviness.

However, it doesn't matter much because 99% of MS customers will make the switch to Vista when they buy their next machine and find it preloaded. That is how 99% made the switch to XP, myself included.
 
BillytheImpaler said:
Hahahahahaahahaha!

I only know two people with more than 512 MiB RAM in their home computers. I think you greatly overestimate the general populace's tech-savviness.

Note I said anybody who plays games/uses photoshop or movie editor?
 
barnettgs said:
Forget spec, you have completely missed the points of mac OS!

So you're saying that the reason Macs cost more, is because of their OS?

Didn't someone earlier in this thread say that OSX costs £60 while Windows costs £200 (which it doesn't)?
 
I used to be a MacBasher until I had to sell them in my last job (competitor).
Maybe it was the fit students who used to come and ask me to demonstrate them, but I certainly don't mock them now.
At my new job (sign manufacturer) we have them sprawled across the shop-floor. They are wonderful to look at, and wonderful to use. What's the problem in that?

Some windows machines are nice to look at, but the GUI certainly isn't.

<-- click here to start

What on earth were they thinking? duuhhh.
 
OSX appears to be £89 on the Apple web site. I do like the fact that they have a 5 license pack for £139 though for household use. Microsoft take note.

I really don't know why everyone gets so hot under the collar about Windows vs OSX. Both obviously work quite well.
 
UKTopGun said:
Atleast 1GB will be absolutely fine by the time Vista is out... Nearly everybody has 2GB nowadays (Well anybody who plays games/uses photoshop or a movie editor).

Plus nobody said you need to run all the fancy features of Vista, like with XP you can just turn it to "Classic".
Do you know that 'basic' Vista version needs to have 512mb while Vista 'Premium' requires min of 1GB. In this case, you would need much more than just 1GB.
 
Windows PC to Intel iMac and back again.

Here's my Apple Experience:

Was always an Amiga man, and used old Apples in the early 90's at uni, but then got my first PC in 1998. Started building my own gaming and video-editing systems right up until February this year, upgrading so often it makes me giddy thinking about how much I spent. Started to get a bit sick of building PCs and something not being right... usually the bloody noise they made!

I work in IT at a university and earlier this year I got a tax rebate and spent a fortune building an AMD X2 system... which I then never touched! Because in the same month I bought a basic Apple Mac Mini (PowerPC G4 processor) to teach myself OSX as so many staff at work have Apple laptops.

I was so taken by OSX and iLife (especially Garagaeband) that within 10 days I sold the AMD X2 system on ebay, took the Mac Mini back to the store and upgraded it to a 1gb Intel-based 20" iMac.

I was so chuffed with it at first - it really is a thing of beauty, very very quiet, the 20" screen is so excellent and OSX felt like a breath of fresh air. The Dashboard is great, the window effects very satisfying and the general experience very appealing - stuff, like wireless and bluetooth, just worked. Mostly.

However, I soon developed a few niggles - the DVD-RW drive was noisy and clunky and slooooow, the headphone output socket was plagued by interference from the optical mouse, and, well, I started to get annoyed by certain software and OS issues. Things like the built in iSight not working with any messenger software apart from Apples own iChat which is tied to having a £68 a year .mac account or having an AIM account... yuck. Also, a lot of software running in PowerPC emulator mode so running slower than on previous-gen G5 machines... also things like my printer drivers not properly working, iMovie crashing, not being able to view streaming Windows Media, games for Intel iMacs being non-existant etc etc.

I ended up using my one year old PC laptop quite a bit more, even to do stuff like low-end video editing. I actually got to the point, after 3 or 4 months, where I was considering selling the iMac... and then I discovered BootCamp.

It was so easy to setup XP on the iMac in a dual boot configuration. The one-click drivers disk that BootCamp creates was brilliant and it did all just work.

First thing I did was install Half-Life 2 via Steam (my disk was knackered) and I was amazed that I could play at full rez 1680 x 1050 with all settings maxed (though FSAA & AF turned off) and it was as smooth as butter without any stuttering like I used to have. Awesome!

I tried loads of other games - Doom 3, Far Cry, Eve Online, Myst V, Tomb Raider Legends - all playing at 1680 x 1050 with good quality settings... the only games that I had to reduce everything for were Oblivion and FEAR, which were playable but not too pretty - lowish settings, no shadows or HDR, 800x600 rez.

Then, a few months later, I started to realise that I was hardly booting into OSX at all, maybe just to doodle in Garageband, and, er... play music using Front Row.

So I thought about this and realised that the £1300 I paid for it was too much money for what had become basically an aesthetically pleasing mid-spec PC that I couldn't upgrade.... so decided to sell it, and put the proceeds towards a high-spec PC so I could play Oblivion as it's meant to be played.

I sold it for £1000 a month or so ago. I read about these new Intel Core Duo 2 chips and thought I'd wait a few months for prices to drop and build that new PC, making do with my laptop... but I've now gone for it and built myself a Core Duo 2 Media Centre PC with 2gb RAM and an X1800XT with a 19" DVI monitor for less than £900. It's been a pain to build - I received a wrong compontent from OcUK, plus incompatible DDR-800 RAM so I had to downgrade to DDR-667, plus SATA & IDE problems etc etc. But I got there and though it's not pretty and is a little bit noisier than the iMac, it's awesomely brilliant at Oblivion - smooth as you like at 1280x1024, all settings maxed, HDR, all water reflections enabled in the .ini file etc etc.

So, to summarise, I must say the experience of owning an iMac was very refreshing and (apart from the niggles I had) I thought it a lovely machine... just so nice to switch on and go, no mucking about in the BIOS, installing millions of drivers, banging your head on your desk after swapping non-working memory, endlessly configuring settings for optimum performance.... but ultimately it just didn't cut the mustard - it just didn't have the power I needed, the compatibility or the upgradeability, and I felt it way overpriced (I must have had a screw loose when I paid the £1300!).

I do miss that 20" widescreen though. And Garageband. Maybe I'll go get me a cheap G4 Mac mini on ebay... oh, here we go again :rolleyes:
 
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