***Sid Meier's Civilization VII***

[PlacidCasual]

I'd got used to the relatively clean look of Civ6 so I'm not loving the interface at first play so far. Some of the mechanisms aren't obvious so far like healing units. It seems to include elements of Beyond Earth and Civ 5 with influence, happiness and city limits. Lets see how it feels a few 10's of hours in.

 

[Tombstone]

My biggest criticism so far isnt the UI, its the map sizes. In multiplayer games we like to have room (both as a buffer and to expand) before running into opposition civs, we tend not to like maps where you are literally tripping over other civs almost from the start and sadly these map sizes do exactly that, its like arena Civ or playing on short length Civ games where all the opposition are right on your doorstep because the game will be a short length one with a lot of conflict and action from the get go. Civ for the ADHD folks we liked to call it. Really hoping that they quickly provide some larger map options so that there is more space rather than it feeling so cramped.

TLDR : Keep your console gaming out of my superior PC gaming thanks

 

[Mr Jack]

My biggest criticism so far isnt the UI, its the map sizes. In multiplayer games we like to have room (both as a buffer and to expand) before running into opposition civs, we tend not to like maps where you are literally tripping over other civs almost from the start and sadly these map sizes do exactly that, its like arena Civ or playing on short length Civ games where all the opposition are right on your doorstep because the game will be a short length one with a lot of conflict and action from the get go. Civ for the ADHD folks we liked to call it. Really hoping that they quickly provide some larger map options so that there is more space rather than it feeling so cramped.

Doesn't the map expand when you get to the exploration age? Have you got onto that yet?

 

[Tombstone]

Doesn't the map expand when you get to the exploration age? Have you got onto that yet?

It does expand yeah but its the fact that almost from the start you're tripping over other civs all over the place thats annoying, too cramped..like the maps are designed to be played on a mobile or tablet and for quick games rather than epic length marathon games where every civ has space and time to build up before running into each other. The map expanding with each age is something I like but I would prefer to have even the first age be a huge map rather than a small one. Currently there are only 3 map sizes (Tiny, Small and Standard), I would like to see Large, Extra Large and Huge/Giant added to those so that the gameworld can be very large to start with, something so that it feels like we are playing on something the size of Europe and Africa rather than playing on something the size of Britain - if that makes sense. I've got a chunky PC with a hefty smack of ram, give me the ability to use it, dont restrict my mapsizes to the scope of a tablet or mobile. Thankfully they did say in the dev QandA that they will be adding larger map options so with a bit of luck that will be sooner rather than later.

In terms of the game mechanics, I'm fine with them, its different so far from previous civs but I am actually quite liking the mechanics differences

 

[Conscript]

It does expand yeah but its the fact that almost from the start you're tripping over other civs all over the place thats annoying, too cramped..like the maps are designed to be played on a mobile or tablet and for quick games rather than epic length marathon games where every civ has space and time to build up before running into each other. The map expanding with each age is something I like but I would prefer to have even the first age be a huge map rather than a small one. Currently there are only 3 map sizes (Tiny, Small and Standard), I would like to see Large, Extra Large and Huge/Giant added to those so that the gameworld can be very large to start with, something so that it feels like we are playing on something the size of Europe and Africa rather than playing on something the size of Britain - if that makes sense. I've got a chunky PC with a hefty smack of ram, give me the ability to use it, dont restrict my mapsizes to the scope of a tablet or mobile. Thankfully they did say in the dev QandA that they will be adding larger map options so with a bit of luck that will be sooner rather than later.

In terms of the game mechanics, I'm fine with them, its different so far from previous civs but I am actually quite liking the mechanics differences

That's already a bit of a turn off for me. Like you, I like big expansive maps and being able to establish myself without tripping over other Civs within a few turns and then having them crowd me before I can even get a couple of cities down.

 

[Tombstone]

That's already a bit of a turn off for me. Like you, I like big expansive maps and being able to establish myself without tripping over other Civs within a few turns and then having them crowd me before I can even get a couple of cities down.

Setting the game mode to Marathon and Long ages seems to help a little bit but I'd still prefer some larger map options , something above Standard. They've confirmed its coming but I guess how quickly will be the question, if I was them I would focus on the UI at this point...its a pretty horrible UI, clearly designed for consoles/mobiles/tablets. Although its a horrid UI I can live with it but for many people its a gamebreaker