Silence at work - rememberance

The idea is to take a moment to COMMUNALLY remember and reflect those men who gave their lives. A public holiday wouldn't be a terrible idea, but the minutes silence trumps it in my view. To have everyone (or the majority) pause for a moment to reflect together is quite powerful.
 
I disagree, in recent years the legion, help for heroes etc. continue to push this nauseating soldier worship, it seems like we are expected to worship and feel sorry for people who all made a career choice to put themselves in this position. it's a million miles away from conscription due to a real threat, IMO there hasn't been a real threat to this country since WW2

Help for Heroes is a completely separate charity to the Royal British Legion, if you disagree with their goals (supporting soldiers and families of soldiers injured in recent wars) then don't support them. However the Poppy Appeal is specifically for the Royal British Legion who are continuing to do the same work they have done for many years. Considering who the Legion are and what they support the last thing they indulge in is soldier worship and glorifying war.

Once again however it does astound me that someone who professes to want to go into a caring profession can exhibit such a lack of empathy and emotional intelligence towards people just because they chose to serve in the armed forces and got injured doing so.
 
He asked for the background behind this particular method of remembrance and whether others feel that there is a more suitable method. He obviously wasn't saying that he doesn't give a **** and can't be bothered with showing his respects.

You gave an "answer" to a question that wasn't even asked.

It's not that difficult to comprehend.
Thanks, I was starting to wonder if I had switched into typing in Klingon with how much people were off mark in their replies.
 
Anyone know how the countries which have significant participation in Day Of The Dead style events, remember/commemorate their war dead ?
 
I support the RBL (though I would prefer a dissociation from Royalty by them) and I am neutral on Help for Heroes, as I don't (and didn't) support any of the Gulf or "terrorist" related wars. My understanding of the historic involvement of Western governments with what are now termed terrorist organisations, means that for me the line between employee and soldier has, in recent decades, been dangerously blurred. Those injured should be seeking fair compensation from those who have profitted from recent wars and arms sales.

Help for Heroes is a completely separate charity to the Royal British Legion, if you disagree with their goals (supporting soldiers and families of soldiers injured in recent wars) then don't support them. However the Poppy Appeal is specifically for the Royal British Legion who are continuing to do the same work they have done for many years. Considering who the Legion are and what they support the last thing they indulge in is soldier worship and glorifying war.

Once again however it does astound me that someone who professes to want to go into a caring profession can exhibit such a lack of empathy and emotional intelligence towards people just because they chose to serve in the armed forces and got injured doing so.
 
Don't see the point. Was better last year as I was in Tesco, those 60 seconds equated to 5 mins saved with every one else being still. Supermarket sweep style.
 
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If I have a client on the phone then I'm not going to just stop talking for a minute, I'll keep going.

If that rustles anyones jimmies then too bad.
 
I can't believe how many people have misinterpreted what Elmarko originally said? :confused:

I actually agree with him, I will attend the local cenotaph on Sunday (as I do every year if I'm not working) and will observe the minutes silence (because it is what is expected).

Plus with 1 or 2 minutes silences now being expected for all manner of tragedies, even by a raucous crowd at a football match, the minutes silence doesn't feel as 'special' anymore.
 
Those 60 seconds put you and everyone around you in a moment where you THINK and REMEMBER those who helped protect us.

The silence makes you think. So you never, ever forget, same for our kids and their kids.

For me at least.

Completely agree. I doubt that I would think about it much if there wasn't this day to 're-jig' our memories. I'm only 19 so don't really have any memories of family being in the wars
 
I'm working my first remembrance for 6 years, I'll find my own little quiet corner and give myself 2 mins quiet time. Won't be able to do it at 11 per the tradition due to the job. But always have a poppy pin on my tie, year round.

Personal preference, I'm from a military family and work with mainly ex forces and believe in the silence. I

I applied to be on the parade at the cenotaph in uniform but due to sustaining an injury I got rejected. Shame really, would have loved the opportunity.

"Some gave all"

Josh
 
It's a totally fair stance yours is +1.

I guess to me it's different, I already remember - it's something I studied & read up regularly - it's not something I'm going to forget.

I appreciate the sacrifices made & attempt to show that appreciation all year round by acting in a way they would feel the sacrifice wasn't in vein.

It may be a natural aversion to conformity - any social situation in which everybody is expected to act in exactly one specific way (with the threat of social condemnation if broken) is enough to make me feel uncomfortable with the practice - even if it is with the best of intentions.

Or may be that the element of 'free choice' is removed (due to the above social pressures), or maybe I'm just over-thinking it.

It's the same feeling I got when I had to go-to church as a child in prayer - the expectation to close your eyes & be silent - to follow the group make me feel uncomfortable.

To me, that makes loads more sense - spending time with loved ones & family fits better with the whole thing.

This will come across as rude, but i type it with the best of intentions. You sound completely ahildish. Instead of rebelling against a social act simply because it is social, try and use your imagination to understand what it is about.

The 1 minute is to remember each individual who selflessly gave their 1 life on this earth to protect the society that we now live in. They did this in horrific conditions and under poor leadership just to protect a society that they would never get to enjoy.

If you posess a strong enough imagination, try and imagine how you would feel in similar circumstances and the extraordinary courage it would take for you , as an individual, do make the sacrifice that those we remember made.

I cannot encourage you enough to ignore the social convention that you rebel against and try to imagine the individual pieces acts of immense courage that was required from every soldier involved in either world war.

Edit; you're right that our individual remembrance should extend past a short silence each year. Despite that, the social act conducted each year helps reinforce, in the simplest way, the importance of remembering.

You are right that many people today completely ignore and misunderstdand what the silence is for. Despite that, those that observe it in their hearts rather than their actions passively set an example that we will not forget.
 
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Its not just soldiers who sacrificed, Mother's lost sons, children lost father's. Brothers, sisters..

Its just a moment to think of others, what they lost, what they gave. Just to reflect on their fears, hopes, loves.

60 seconds isn't much to ask
 
In the US it is a public holiday which seems more fitting, and is much more enjoyable.

Good idea!

A day of remembrance, to spend time with loved ones and family :)

I've always found one minute to be pointless, what are you going to do pull over in your car in traffic!
 
Its not just soldiers who sacrificed, Mother's lost sons, children lost father's. Brothers, sisters..

Its just a moment to think of others, what they lost, what they gave. Just to reflect on their fears, hopes, loves.

60 seconds isn't much to ask

+1, couldn't put it better myself. I have close bonds with a family who lost a son and brother in Northern Ireland in the early 90's. Devestated them all, even to this day.
 
I really don't care for any debate on this, or whatever the opinion,

I for one, will always hang my head in silence and remembrance at 11am on the 11/11

were ever I am, whatever I am doing.

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I really don't care for any debate on this, or whatever the opinion,

I for one, will always hang my head in silence and remembrance at 11am on the 11/11

were ever I am, whatever I am doing.

You've missed the OP's point. He's challenging the expectation of it for everyone to do it, not the choice that some consciously make to do so. I would expect the vast majority of people do it because they think it's what you're supposed to do.

Personally, I find sitting there in silence meaningless, so I don't do it, that does not mean I think you shouldn't do it if you derive meaning from it. If I want to contemplate something, I will do so as I don't need a cue or special occasion to remind me. I'm not saying you do, I'm just describing how I feel about it and how that influences my actions.
 
My late grandfather fought in both world wars and he died last year so for me Remembrance Day will be remembering him, the sacrifices he and countless others made to ensure we remain free.

I think many people have similar stories and it's very much a personal thing.

Stoner81.
 
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