Siliconslave's how to make espresso thread

Nice to see this bumped up every now and then.

I not had proper coffee for a while and ordered some Jailbreak due to some good words here.

I currently own a Presso (makes a very nice espesso) and a Aeropress which is more useful for a normal cup of coffee.
Which method would be best to get the most out of Jailbreak beans?
 
Does anyone have any recommendations for ready ground coffee from Hasbean for using in a Moka pot?

I was thinking of trying some Jailbreak but not sure what grind is best for a Moka?

The coffee I have been trying at the minute is espresso grind and I am finding it is turning out quite bitter a lot of the time and I believe this is due to over-extraction as the grind is too fine?

Thanks for your help.
Paul.
 
Is it necessary to descale my Gaggia Classic? I have been using filtered water only.

If so, what descaling product would you recommend and how often should it be done?
 
if you haven't seen: http://www.coffeecommon.com/ some very cool stuff is happening with some of the worlds best coffee roasters and barristers getting together to try and drive the public perception of coffee beyond the high-street chains...

Paul - grab one of the hasbean samplers, that should give you an idea of what you like and works for you.

If your getting a too bitter coffee from a moka pot try backing off the grind (if your home grinding) it doesn't want to be too fine. Also put boiling water into the base, that will really improve things :)
 
I have just bought some Bolivia Mac, 3 bags of Fazenda Cochiera and a Porlex grinder (If it's used by Hasbean Steve then that's good enough for me).

This is all your fault Siliconslave :p

PS Thanks for the links :)

PPS I cannot believe the new Nescafe 3 in 1. Is adding your own milk and suagar to your instant swill really that much effort :p :confused:
 
Thanks Siliconslave.

I don't have a home grinder yet so while I'm saving for that, what grind would you recommend from Hasbean? I have looked at getting the Espresso starter pack and you can select ready ground for Cafetiere, Filter, Jug or Espresso.

I would guess that Cafetiere or Filter would be my best bet?

Thanks,
Paul.
 
Thanks Siliconslave.

I don't have a home grinder yet so while I'm saving for that, what grind would you recommend from Hasbean? I have looked at getting the Espresso starter pack and you can select ready ground for Cafetiere, Filter, Jug or Espresso.

I would guess that Cafetiere or Filter would be my best bet?

Thanks,
Paul.

I emailed hasbean a few months back with this exact question and the response was:

I find a filter style is best for the stove top

Hope this helps
 
I have just bought some Bolivia Mac, 3 bags of Fazenda Cochiera and a Porlex grinder (If it's used by Hasbean Steve then that's good enough for me).

This is all your fault Siliconslave :p

PS Thanks for the links :)

PPS I cannot believe the new Nescafe 3 in 1. Is adding your own milk and suagar to your instant swill really that much effort :p :confused:

Which Porlex grinder did you buy? Do you have a link to it?
 
I'll be popping into Monmouths in Covent Garden next week. Any good recommendations for a filter bean?

I'm popping in on Tuesday probably - off to see the Queen Stormtrooper in Stiletto's exhabition and also to see Macbeth at the Globe in the evening.

My personal choices from the last time I visited and took one of their coffee lists:

Gethumbwini - a classic. Blackberry. Lots of it. Kinda almost blackberry chewits.

El Guabo - orange, lemon and lime zest, chocolate finish - very balanced.

Finca Las Nubes - warning - not one to drink in store - it's really very subtle and will be overpowered by the other coffees in store. Quite sweet with oriental pear flavours. I drank this one outside *away from the grinder and other strong food smells/tastes* from the chemex and it was really very refreshing.

The Organic espresso is pretty tasty in the V60 too.

It's always good to see if they have any sample roasts going on too - good to get a taste of whats to come. May not be roasted 100% correctly or a the beans peak, but you can normally try some good coffees that way.

It's also well worth the ~10 minute stroll down the road to Notes Music and Coffee - rapidly becoming my favouite place in London for coffee. It's pretty much on a straight line with Monmouth Covent Garden too. Monmouth St, Upper St Martins Lane towards Trafalgar Square.


It was this one http://www.hasbean.co.uk/products/Porlex-Ceramic-Burr-Coffee-Grinder.html

I was going for a Hario Skerton but they haven't been in stock at Hasbean for a while. And stock of them seems limited everywhere to be honest.

About a tenner cheaper and used by Steve, so a no-brainer really.

Steve also broke his Skerton, much harder to break stainless steel. ;) have tried one of these and I really like them. Nice and easy to use - the Skerton can be a pain to hold. I wanted the extra capacity of the Skerton for use with the Chemex - grinding 60g still takes a while though.
 
I'm popping in on Tuesday probably - off to see the Queen Stormtrooper in Stiletto's exhabition and also to see Macbeth at the Globe in the evening.

My personal choices from the last time I visited and took one of their coffee lists:

Gethumbwini - a classic. Blackberry. Lots of it. Kinda almost blackberry chewits.

El Guabo - orange, lemon and lime zest, chocolate finish - very balanced.

Finca Las Nubes - warning - not one to drink in store - it's really very subtle and will be overpowered by the other coffees in store. Quite sweet with oriental pear flavours. I drank this one outside *away from the grinder and other strong food smells/tastes* from the chemex and it was really very refreshing.

The Organic espresso is pretty tasty in the V60 too.

It's always good to see if they have any sample roasts going on too - good to get a taste of whats to come. May not be roasted 100% correctly or a the beans peak, but you can normally try some good coffees that way.

It's also well worth the ~10 minute stroll down the road to Notes Music and Coffee - rapidly becoming my favouite place in London for coffee. It's pretty much on a straight line with Monmouth Covent Garden too. Monmouth St, Upper St Martins Lane towards Trafalgar Square.

Thanks for the recommendations :) Hopefully they won't be too busy and I'll be able to sample some. Let us know if you find anything special on Tuesday as I'll be going there a couple of days later on Thursday.

Steve also broke his Skerton, much harder to break stainless steel. ;) have tried one of these and I really like them. Nice and easy to use - the Skerton can be a pain to hold. I wanted the extra capacity of the Skerton for use with the Chemex - grinding 60g still takes a while though.

Using the Skerton, could you please do me a favour please and count how many turns of the grinder you use for different brew methods and note the weight of beans used? I think it would be as close to scientific as one can get when trying different settings. Personally at the moment, I'm using around 80 turns for 20g for the second Aeropress method I mentioned a few posts ago.
 
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Thanks for the recommendations :) Hopefully they won't be too busy and I'll be able to sample some. Let us know if you find anything special on Tuesday as I'll be going there a couple of days later on Thursday.

Will do. If there is only one of you, there's normally a space available or a very short wait for one.

Using the Skerton, could you please do me a favour please and count how many turns of the grinder you use for different brew methods and note the weight of beans used? I think it would be as close to scientific as one can get when trying different settings. Personally at the moment, I'm using around 80 turns for 20g for the second Aeropress method I mentioned a few posts ago.

Will count next time I use it. You also have to take into account bean size, density.... ;)
 
Quick question about the Aeropress, as I'm still going through my Jailbreak beans and still getting it coming out very smoky. Regardless of brew method, is it recommended to stop plunging when you hear the air pushing through? My tidiness takes over so I normally plunge right down, but I was wondering if that had something to do with the smokiness :confused:
 
Possibly. It's well worth trying to stop when the air starts getting pushed through. I then stand the aeropress on a ramekin and push the rest through on that. Makes it easier to clean the aeropress.

Also I'm now using the Coava disk metal filter for the aeropress and it cuts down on a lot of the sediment going into the cup.
 
Will do. If there is only one of you, there's normally a space available or a very short wait for one.

Oh that's good. I'll probably hit the rush hour on the way home so I may stay in London for a while and try Notes as well.

Will count next time I use it. You also have to take into account bean size, density.... ;)

OK, could you please calculate also the average bean size and count how many beans per gram? :p just kidding!!

Quick question about the Aeropress, as I'm still going through my Jailbreak beans and still getting it coming out very smoky. Regardless of brew method, is it recommended to stop plunging when you hear the air pushing through? My tidiness takes over so I normally plunge right down, but I was wondering if that had something to do with the smokiness :confused:

Scam, as you have the same setup as myself ie Skerton and Aeropress, have you tried the methods I suggested in this post?

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=18526335&postcount=1801

If not, I urge you to do so!! I am now using the second method exclusively but using a slightly coarser grind (Takes around 80-85 turns of the Skerton to grind 20g beans)/

Try both and let us know how you get on. Don't be tempted to brew for longer until you've tried it with these very short brew times. Oh and personally I stop just when I start to hear the hiss, not that I've done much experimentation with the same brew methods with and without that extra bit of plunging.
 
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Quick question about the Aeropress, as I'm still going through my Jailbreak beans and still getting it coming out very smoky. Regardless of brew method, is it recommended to stop plunging when you hear the air pushing through? My tidiness takes over so I normally plunge right down, but I was wondering if that had something to do with the smokiness :confused:

It's quite a smoky blend though. That's partly why I like it, dark and spicy, smells of earth and cumin:)
If you want a slightly more acidic drink try grinding the beans finer. I use the inverted method like Hamster.
 
Well after many years of horrible machine coffee and instant blandness I moved over to ground coffee last year. So have been having various pre-packaged ground coffee's sampling different flavours from different regions but I still feel I am missing something in the flavour so am now looking at moving up to the next level and get the beans and grind them.

Currently I use a cafetiere at work so was wondering what the best type of grinder would be to do the job? Would a hand grinder or electric be best. I would say at this stage my budget would be around £50 but if there is a significant improvement in quality in one slightly more expensive i would be willing to buy it.

The next question is what type of coffee should I try? From the types that I have tried I have found that I prefer the more nutty flavoured coffee's rather than the citrus flavoured coffee's.
 
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