Silly Question!!

Thermaltake said:
Yeh but how can someone define muscle tone to you? is there a definitive answer?
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What?

you say that its different to everyone, which I agree to so explain that I was after his definition of it. Is that not clear enough what I was expecting?
I wanted to know what K.Jacko meant by toning. Not hard to understand, even K.Jacko understood what I was asking, but decided to have a pop at me rather than answering.

Whatever, I'll leave this thread alone.
 
Thermaltake said:
Yeh but how can someone define muscle tone to you? is there a definitive answer?


Yeh the other questions were directed at the thread starter.
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I think the point is that "tone" doesn't really mean anything - although my interpretation would be muscular definition combined with a low BF%.
 
Morba said:
Not making something out of nothing, wanted to know what you were saying before building on it, thats all.
Nevermind!
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Sorry mate, i was just expecting you to dissect the 'muscle tone' comment and it lead off on a 'war of words' tangent.
But as Thermaltake said, i think it could be a different definition to most.
I could copy and past a wiki definition but i don't think that would help any.
So, to me, it would mean tightening up the muscles revealing more shape to them but not necessarily size increase, increase the fitness of the muscle, and all these leading to improving posture.
Please feel free build on it, but direct it to the op please mate, its his question.
i can't even get to the gym right now, so my problems are even worse! :rolleyes: ...........and for a different thread :)
 
Bodybuilders and the uninformed will immediately insist there's no point to cardio and lifting, blah blah blah.

Bottom line is, for you initially your goals will be like many who start the gym.

I want to loose weight.
I want to be fitter.
I want to look better with my kit off.

Nowt wrong with this. Go to your gym, you'll be specced a basic routine for four weeks that will consist of a warm up, CV session and MSE (muscular strength and endurance session) that will build a base level of fitness and achieve the changes you're looking for.

Yes, swimming is excellent. Post-exercise it can help reduce lactic acid and increase/maintain flexibility.

Experienced vets, budding enthusiasts and know-it-alls will try and ply you with a wealth of information. Forgetting that initially, you need to accustom your body to exercise, and your mind to going to the gym regularly.

Your main focus should be this:
-Whatever you do in a session. Intensity is your key goal. Do it hard.
-Take a look at your diet, don't worry too much about it, but start cutting out crap, and calories through liquid.
-Get into the habbit of regularly getting to the gym, working hard, and enjoying it.

Too many vets forget what its like when you first start out, and are so eager to pump you full of the knowledge its taken them years to gain that they put you right off exercise ;)

For the first 6-12 weeks (usually around 8) your body will adapt slowly, you'll gain lean mass and loose body fat. When you've been at it for 2-3 months, and the basic stuff isnt cutting it, that's when you start getting more serious.

Good luck,
Ant :cool:

EDIT: Muscle Tone is defined in the industry as the quantity/size of muscle fibres recruited at any given time to maintain posture and stability.
 
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I didn't think that muscle tone would have been anything at all to do with size. Normally, those that don't know what they're on about will remark someone is 'toned' if they have a little muscle and low BF%.
 
Thanks for all the help guys, I think I now know the basics for what to do to achieve what I need.

If I need any more help you'll be the first people I come to.
 
I've been going to the gym everyday since friday, Just need to make sure I'm doing things right.

When I go in I do about 15 minutes of cardio to warm myself up, then I work my way around the various machines from the bench press to the leg extensions, I try to do a full body work out to use every muscle group each time.

I do 3x8 on each machine at the maximum weight that I can life 8 times in a row, I have been doing this everyday, I also changed my diet to eat more often and food that has got protein in it.

Am I doing it right? Or is there something I should change?

p.s. My shoulders and the muscles leading from my shoulders to my pecks hurt like hell.
 
Split ur training into three parts. Normal gym routine which is specced. Something like shoulders, arms, chest on monday. Triceps, back, stomach on wednesday and legs on friday. Somthing along those lines anyway. Try and do 4 sets and 3 different exercises for each body part. So in all you might do 9 excercises on monday with 4 sets in each excercise.
 
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Hello again, I don't want to open another thread so I'll just post here.

How do you gain a six pack, There is a machine in the gym that says it works on your abs, does it actually work?

Also, crunches, When is the best time to do them, some in the morning when you get up, or before you go to sleep?

last but not least, I seen in Argos these Electric belts that you attach pads to areas around your abs and it sends electrical shocks into your abs to strengthen them, Do they actually work?

Thanks
Chris
 
Most normal guys are after the Brad Pitt fight club look lol I can gurantee thats what the op is hoping for, obviously not that extreme because well it's not easy right.
 
You don't "gain" a six pack. Sure you have to have the muscles there, however the only way of "getting" a six pack is to lose bodyfat. End of.

Oh and you can forget those "electronic ab stimulation piece of crap rubbish" it really is laziness ot the extreme and will do sod all.

You need to build a good core with good core exercises, do some ab work, but predominently lose some bodyfat.
 
Freefaller said:
You don't "gain" a six pack. Sure you have to have the muscles there, however the only way of "getting" a six pack is to lose bodyfat. End of.
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I think most people have enough muscles beneath to have a 6 pack, I see ultra skinny kids all the time with six packs who don't even work out.
 
roid said:
Is it time we make a how to get six pack abs sticky :D
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Almost tempted to ban you for that suggestion! :p

I have a hugely powerful core but carry a *little* too much BF, you can still clearly see the abs and the serratus but it's not super cut - but I don't care. Most skinny people with abs couldn't take more that a football in the gut without creasing over double :p
 
Thanks for the help guys,

Just gain muscle all round and do some crunches, Lose some weight and lets hope they stick out :)
 
The serratus anterior is the muscle group that run along the ribs under the armp pits and look like fingers clutching your sides :)

Ant :cool:
 
Not the ones I was thinking of - between hip and well penis lol one sec let me get image.



What the hell you call those things. I want.
 
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