Six Months with the E92 M3

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I've have my E92 for 6 months now so thought you may be interested in a write up. First some pics.

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Why the M3?
I tend to be a bit of an impulse buyer. I certainly don’t plan car purchases anything like the way some people do... My S3 was purchased cos the Audi garage was the closest to my house…RS4 cos they had one and it went fast…etc. You get the idea.

Anyway, I’d had an E46 soft-top for getting on for a year. I’d not specifically bought the soft-top; I’d actually aimed to get the newest E46 shape I could – and that turned out to be the soft top. I didn’t particularly like the newer shape – and to be fair I still prefer the aesthetics of the E46. Liked the car, was great in summer, and was an easy drive.

A couple of people I work with have upgraded their cars – an RS5, and a Porsche C4S. This got me thinking. I test drove the RS5 and was utterly underwhelmed with it. Plenty fast, yes, but just didn’t feel special. So non-special in fact that I forgot about getting a new car for a good couple of months. Until I spotted a low-mileage E92 M3 accidentally on the dealer’s website that I’d purchased the E46 from. This was in the morning – it was on my way home, the deal was done 2 hours later.

As you can see, completely impulsive. To be fair, I’d also looked up the online reviews and they’d all said it was a fantastic car. I must admit I was particularly taken with the aesthetics of this one. Black, with fox red interior, on 19” rims.

Why not a 335? Well, I know these are very capable cars. A friend of mine has one and it’s not that much slower than the M3 truth be told. The drive however is a world apart – it’s not anything like as involving. Getting a 335 would have been like getting a ‘bit faster’ version of my E46, for some reason my brain just didn’t see it as special.

Driving the Car
For the first month or so of picking the car up, it’s reasonable to say I found it utterly terrifying. Not because of it’s outright pace – I’ve had cars as fast before – but the fact that it was rear wheel drive. I think my own personal restrictor was set far lower than that of the car. I had visions of disappearing into a hedge, backwards.

Now, this was further exacerbated by a couple of facts:

· The PS2 tyres on the rear were running low on tread.
· Turns out my traction control unit was – and I quote – “Knackered”.

Interesting hey? So, I had the traction control + some other gubbins swapped under warranty – and at around the same time had the tyres replaced.

Oh my word – what a difference. Sure, I knew the car a little better by then so maybe my confidence was up, but with the new TCU and new tyres, the car felt like a completely different beast.

I really have total confidence in the handling of this car now – the rear wheel drive doesn’t scare me in the slightest. The car grips just as well as any other car I’ve ever owned.

Sure you can get the traction light flashing from a standing start, right up through third gear – but that’s the same as most other 400Bhp+ cars. It was the same in my RS4. The difference in the ‘4 is that I magically assumed that the AWD would just magically sort things out.

I’m now pretty sure that it was little to do with the AWD and more to do with clever electronics. The M3 feels just as planted as the RS4 ever did.

Saying that, personally I’d be less inclined to floor it going through a corner with the traction off. It’d end badly. I’m pretty sure that would have ended badly in the RS4 too – but at least I’d have got to see what I was about to drive in to.

The M3 is an exciting drive. Setting the M button up for sport sharpens up the whole package no-end making it pin sharp. In ‘girl’ mode I find the throttle response a little lax actually – so I tend to leave it in sport all the time, and then have ‘Sport Plus’ or whatever it’s called programmed in to the M button. ‘Sport Plus’ is a bit of a handful round town – it really does shunt you off as soon as you so much think about getting anywhere near the loud pedal.

In corners/roundabouts the car grips incredibly well. Even in M setting you get limited slip at the rear end. Sure, floor it out of a roundabout in M the back will get a bit twitchy, but it’s nothing the electronics can’t cope with, and easy enough to control. Turn the traction off however and I’m sure I’d be facing the wrong way in no time. I tried it once – it’s not been any further than M ever since.

Here’s something that may be slightly controversial – but I actually find the ‘M actually under-steers slightly if you power in to a roundabout or corner. Not in a ‘oh my god I’m going in to a wall’ sort of way, but enough to give you maximum confidence in control – back off slightly, it gets it’s act together and off you go. If you’re brave enough a bit of opposite lock on the way out is possible too. The thing that I find massively interesting here is that the over-steer thing only ever happens when I absolutely and totally force it, and even then I only get it happen maybe one in three times. It’s not as rear happy as I certainly originally thought.

There’s less objective opinion to be had here too. The balance of this car is simply astonishing. You feel like you’re right in the middle of it and it moves around you. It’s a very difficult thing to explain – you just do not feel the weight of the car. Turn in is sharp as a tack, and is all I could ask for in a fast mid-size car.

I’ve found myself doing things I haven’t done for years. Like driving to Wales for example over an unexpected weekend purely just to play with the thing. Like giving a friend a lift to Chester from London on the understanding we could go have lunch in Aberystwyth on the way. This car has given me my ‘want’ of driving back.

I did not see that coming.

Aesthetics/Exterior/Cabin
The newer shape of the BMW is growing on me, however it’s no secret I’m still a big fan of the E46 platform. I do like the aggressive stance of the M3 I have to say – I didn’t realise that they’re actually quite easy to spot from any angle. That could be of course because I now own one.

I’ve always thought the 4 exhausts on the E9x look a bit ‘stuck on’ compared to the E46? I don’t particularly care, I never get to see them anyway.

I do like the carbon fibre roof, I think it looks funky.

The interior is far brighter than my previous cars, bar maybe my silver-leathered S3. The Fox red interior matches the paintwork well and brightens up the overall interior.

The switchgear is all good quality, and everything is laid out particularly well – seems to be more functional than design though. By that I mean I always thought the interior of my Audis (S3 and an RS4) were particularly ‘crafted’ places to be. The BMW seems a bit more solid & functional, and not as, well, pretty.

I do particularly love the seats. Fully adjustable, including the side bolsters (took me a while to work that out….) being adjustable depending on the type of driving you’re doing. You also get fully adjustable lumbar support as well.

Anything I don’t like about the interior? A few things, including:

iDrive
My car has the older DVD based SatNav Pro and iDrive system. I find it tedious to use. In fact I rarely use the SatNav preferring the one on my iPhone (TomTom) instead. The USB interface to my iPod works well enough but finding what you want on an iPod with 60-odd Gb of music on can be a bit of a twirl fest.

The SatNav doesn’t even use full post-code search – that to me is appalling….

Gear Throw
As I mentioned a while ago, I found the manual gear throw to be quite long, and because of that slightly tiring. In view of this, I changed the gear throw by replacing the gear knob with a shorter throw unit. You can view that process here. Time and winter will tell how much I like the metal gear knob.

Memory Seat
(Erm, this is probably more me…) The memory seat buttons seem to have a mind of their own. They don’t appear to remember the settings properly. Like I say, this could be me. [EDIT] Fixed by the dealer on last visit.

As a side note, my daughter loves the seats too. Although on long journeys the constant ‘buzzzz, buzzzz, buzz <moving child>’ can get a little tiring.

Stupid Climate Control is Stupid
One thing I’ve never quite got about any of my BMWs is the climate control. Set the temperature on the display – fine. You then however have another roll wheel in the centre air vents that controls the mixture of air from outside the car – I.e. hot or cold air. This I find utterly pointless. If I set the temp at 20 degrees, I want the temperature at 20 degrees – not 20deg +/- whatever that analogue wheel is set up. I do know some people like this feature – you can adjust the temperature of the air that actually hits your upper body for example – but personally I just find it totally useless and pointless.

The Engine
The engine absolutely and totally makes this car. It’s a very sweet high revving naturally aspirated V8 – it red lines at 8,400RPM. The noise is a little muted inside the car (and thankfully so if you drive a lot) but wow does it sound good with the windows down and in tunnels. I’ve also had the pleasure of listening to the dealer driving it off for a service – and it sounds ace.

Back when I had the RS4 I thought turbo engines were the nuts, and large capacity engines were somewhat lazy. I’ll be the first to admit this was probably because of the V8s I’d driven previously, and because turbo engines were far more rewarding to tune.

The engine in the M3, and in the newer RS4 to be fair, are amazingly responsive engines. They just beg to be revved – the noise is astonishing, and the power/acceleration as you go up the rev range is simply awesome.

Fortunately it can also be a pussycat around town. Trundle around at 3K RPM or less and it’s capable and easy to drive. If I had a complaint it would be that low down the rev range the engine doesn’t feel as torque rich as some cars I’ve driven – 400N-m at 3,900RPM is hardly rubbish, but it’s not as punchy as I’d imagined. Bang it down a gear though and you’re back to having your face on fire.

Dealer Experience
This is something that has stood out for me. I’ve currently had a couple of experiences with a BMW dealer and both have been exceptional. First time was asking them whether I could rolling-road my M3. They explained I could but it would cause all kinds of errors due to the rears doing 100Mph+ while the fronts were stationary – they simply said pop by and they’ll reset it.

I did – and they spotted all the errors on the traction control, and then arranged to have the replacements fitted there and then. Brilliant experience.

Next time was with a brake fluid service. Picked up the car then they said, did exactly as asked, and returned it. They did ring to ask whether they’d mind if they dropped it off an hour later – even the way they did that was fine by me. They first stressed they could drop it at the time arranged if needed, but was it possible to deliver it an hour later as they were a little backed up. Control was with me, and I felt my opinion was important. Wow. This experience is just amazing coming from somebody used to Audi dealers. I wonder if this is a BMW thing or just my local dealer thing…?

Fuel Costs
This is the thing I was particularly interested in…. I’ve done a fair number of miles this year – in six months I’ve done 13,600 miles. This equates to £ £4,296.85 in fuel, at an average cost of £1.412/litre – 90%+ super unleaded.

Average MPG has been circa 20.8Mpg – with the average fill-up range being 230 miles.

There’s a lot of city driving in there so it’s not anything like as horrific as I expected. I mate with the same car but mostly central London driving is getting circa 16Mpg.

Servicing
So far it's had run-in service, break-fluid service, and the first major service with spark plugs and the like.

Costs for the 6 months to date shown below.

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The single extra rear-tyre was because I got a big chunk of metal in a new tyre – how gutting is that? I’ve also purchased the oil separately as it’s cheaper than dealer.

Few ‘improvements’ including:

· Snap-in for the iPhone 4 in the armrest. Charges the phone, rarely use it.
· Bike racks – went for the proper ones given the carbon fibre roof. Didn’t want any warranty arguments.
· New DVDs for SatNav.

Insurance
39 (40 now…) no points, business use, central London address and kept on drive - £1650/year. Two years no claims.

Summary Costs
Six month costs, and projected twelve month costs. The vast majority of the fuel (80%+) for me is business use, so no cost to me.

The second table shows the projected cost with my business mileage removed – makes a fair bit of difference as you see. I've adjusted the servicing down by the same margin although I don't think that's as 'correct' as just dropping the fuel amount.

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For what it's worth I don't pay for fuel at all, business or personal use.

Experience Summary
The engine and balance of this car are simply an awesome combination. I never really understood the obsession with BMW previously – their idea of the ‘ultimate driving machine’ always to me sounded a bit, well, tossy. I think now though I understand what they were on about. Ultimate? Arguable. Fun and exciting to drive? Oh yes.

I love this car. It’s given me the fun of driving back – even around town. I’ve even washed it myself. Twice.

I do wonder how well it will cope with any snow – I guess the answer will be that it won’t.... I’ll hire a small front-wheel driver if that happens, or even a 4x4.

The fuel costs are a little punitive – even when you don’t readily pay for the fuel you’re using. If you’re paying for fuel directly yourself it’s certainly something to think about – fuel will cost you around 30p/mile (£300/1000 miles=£3.6k/year at 12k/year).

I suspect I’ll keep this car at least till the summer however where I go next is a tough one…. I suspect my next car will still have a V8, but maybe with a couple of turbos thrown on….

Anyways, thought some of you may find the above vaguely interesting.
 
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Thanks for the write up, I'll read it properly at lunch.

BTW your pics aren't working because you're leeching them from another forum. You'll need to upload them to imgur or photobucket for us to see them here.
 
First of all - great write up - its interesting to know other peoples ownership stories and have an insight into the real cost of ownership.

Glad you are enjoying the car

£300 for a brake fluid service?!?!? W T F!!!!

I thought this as well - I hope they did more than just change brake fluid!
 
Nice write-up dude... stop trying to convince me to go back to searching for a nice road car instead of track toys... :p

Thanks for the price summaries - damn - it's affordable :eek:

Here’s something that may be slightly controversial – but I actually find the ‘M actually under-steers slightly if you power in to a roundabout or corner. Not in a ‘oh my god I’m going in to a wall’ sort of way, but enough to give you maximum confidence in control – back off slightly, it gets it’s act together and off you go. If you’re brave enough a bit of opposite lock on the way out is possible too. The thing that I find massively interesting here is that the over-steer thing only ever happens when I absolutely and totally force it, and even then I only get it happen maybe one in three times. It’s not as rear happy as I certainly originally thought.

That's because you're not supposed to power "in" to a corner... you're supposed to hit the power on (or just before) the apex.

If you power in to a corner in any Front Engined RWD car (well, actually... any road car I can think of and most race cars), you will get entry understeer as the balance won't be quite right, you want to lift/tap the break to shift the weight on to the front wheels for that extra bit of turn-in grip & then get back on to the power once the car's going where you want it to...

There’s less objective opinion to be had here too. The balance of this car is simply astonishing. You feel like you’re right in the middle of it and it moves around you. It’s a very difficult thing to explain – you just do not feel the weight of the car. Turn in is sharp as a tack, and is all I could ask for in a fast mid-size car.
That's one of the reasons I fell in love with the thing at the Palmersport day - it's a 1.65Ton car, but it really doesn't feel like it. So wonderfully involving.

Pretty much my perfect road car.

The engine absolutely and totally makes this car. It’s a very sweet high revving naturally aspirated V8 – it red lines at 8,400RPM. The noise is a little muted inside the car (and thankfully so if you drive a lot) but wow does it sound good with the windows down and in tunnels. I’ve also had the pleasure of listening to the dealer driving it off for a service – and it sounds ace.
There is something special about that V8 :D
 
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So basically M3's cost a lot to run. :p

Ha, yeah, who knew :D

To be fair though I'm one of those people who is intolerant about *anything* being wrong, so my cars get the best service I can give them.

For example in that 300 quid Brake Fluid service there was a new cover for one of the wing mirrors because I'd accidentally scratched it with my watch. Utterly pointless, and you can could hardly see it - but *I knew* it was there.

Stuff like that pushes up the running costs.

Also, without the fuel funding I wouldn't be running a 4l V8 to do 25 miles pa.
 
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Stupid Climate Control is Stupid
One thing I’ve never quite got about any of my BMWs is the climate control. Set the temperature on the display – fine. You then however have another roll wheel in the centre air vents that controls the mixture of air from outside the car – I.e. hot or cold air. This I find utterly pointless. If I set the temp at 20 degrees, I want the temperature at 20 degrees – not 20deg +/- whatever that analogue wheel is set up. I do know some people like this feature – you can adjust the temperature of the air that actually hits your upper body for example – but personally I just find it totally useless and pointless.

I will never, ever, understand why people dont get this.

The idea behind the system is that it's a thermostat - you choose the optimum temperature, usually 20-22ish, and thats it. You never touch it ever again in your entire life. If its hot outside its chilled inside. If its cold outside its warm inside. It just works, at that temperature, forever more.

Howevever, there is reconigition that sometimes you might want a blast of cold air, or a blast of hot air, or whatever, to suit personal mood. This is what the knurled wheel is for - an over-ride for the face level vents meaning you never need touch the main controls ever again. Leave it in neutral and its all taken care of automatically to maintain the set temp. So, if you dont like it, you can never touch it. Or use it for its intended purpose and adjust it to suit.

What people do is jump in the car, refuse to understand how the system works and just change the set temperature every 34 seconds. This understandably leaves people confused as to what the wheel is for - it has no purpose if you are just going to go 'OMG I AM HOT' and whack it to 16 or OMG I AM COLD and whack it to 32.

To be fair it did take me a good 4 months to get my head around this but once I did, it's great. I think I last adjusted the temperature on the display the last time the battery went flat..
 
It really, really isn't. My Infiniti G37 in the States didnt have it and it drove me mad, I had to constantly adjust the set temperature all the time, it was nothing like as good as the BMW system. That little wheel is the most genius part of the whole system :p
 
Ok, but people can have different opinions on something mate. Personally, I know what it's for, and I still think it's a pointless add-on. You don't - which is just as right as my opinion is it not given that is a very subjective item.
 
The only way it can be pointless is if:

a) You never ever ever ever ever want to vary the temp in your car
b) You think the twirly knob on the climate control is for micromanaging the temperature in your car, in which case why have climate control

Which are you? :p
 
Oh, right, now I get it. You're the only person who has a correct opinion? Just to be clear - I understand why you think it's ace.... I just don't *for me* think it's of any use.

Wheel has been in the middle since day 1 and I rarely change the temperature - in which case it's neither of the above. It's been on 20 degrees for me (18 for my lass, dunno why) for as long as I can remember. I don't sit there constantly turning the temp up and down. I don't in this car, haven't in any of my others either.

For me it's a pointless add on that I don't use, and have no use for.

I'm not sure why you find it such an affront that people don't automatically fall in line with your opinion?
 
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I also think it's ace, and as a member of the official BMW decision board it's now non-negotiable.

In fact, it's particularly annoying that it isn't a wheel in the E60. I can rarely be bothered to faff with iDrive to change it.
 
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