Yup. Silver bundle, Q box for main tv and mini for the second one.
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Yup. Silver bundle, Q box for main tv and mini for the second one.
Soldato
thanks, and i take it there are no cashback incentives for existing customers? 
just had a look on tcb... there's £21 cashback for multiroom added for existing customers... hmmm that'd get me 10 months for the price of 12 then, assuming multiroom runs on a yearly contract..
just had a look on tcb... there's £21 cashback for multiroom added for existing customers... hmmm that'd get me 10 months for the price of 12 then, assuming multiroom runs on a yearly contract..
Soldato
Just reading some of the posts at the top of this page, regarding discounts if you go about it the right way you can get usually get one in my experience.
For instance if you go on sky's website, through to live chat with the reason being "leaving sky" then the person who you start typing to will ask if there's anything else or if you want to talk to someone, you give your phone number and get a call back in a few minutes, that's basically their retentions dept. so they'll figure that you're serious about leaving, just mention the words expensive + bills and they should offer you some form of discount. I did exactly that this morning and got a 10 percent discount for 9 months on my tv package.
For instance if you go on sky's website, through to live chat with the reason being "leaving sky" then the person who you start typing to will ask if there's anything else or if you want to talk to someone, you give your phone number and get a call back in a few minutes, that's basically their retentions dept. so they'll figure that you're serious about leaving, just mention the words expensive + bills and they should offer you some form of discount. I did exactly that this morning and got a 10 percent discount for 9 months on my tv package.
Soldato
No such offer when I cancelled on Monday. Sky weren't evem interested in keeping me as a customer.
The minute I put the phone down to retentions, insisting I want to cancel, my online account showed a banner offering 50% off.
A week later, I then went onto chat and said I'd heard about £100 credit and 60% off. The guy said I am entitled to £100 credit and 50% off, but the 60% offer was no longer available. I'm certain if I'd waited till closer to cut off time (or even after cut off), they'd have offered more, but with F1 season here, I decided that was a pretty good offer.
Soldato
I think I might just go for sky multiroom for now, I don't watch _that_ much TV and in the first place all I wanted was the ability to watch the channels I can watch downstairs upstairs on my new TV.
With the £21 cashback for existing customers wanting to upgrade to sky multiscreen it works out to £2.40 extra per week with free installation.
Now that I got this discount this morning with Sky, to get Sky Q would cost £150 for setup, and a further £18 extra a month for at least 18 months meaning it'd cost £474.
The cost of simply adding multiscreen with cashback = £114. That and I may be moving house later on this year so that'll no doubt cost a new installation and setup fee.
Sky Q does sound great though, but there's catchup via ps4 for loads of stuff, and netflix for films etc. I don't need to record 4 programmes at once and watch two other ones live just yet!
With the £21 cashback for existing customers wanting to upgrade to sky multiscreen it works out to £2.40 extra per week with free installation.
Now that I got this discount this morning with Sky, to get Sky Q would cost £150 for setup, and a further £18 extra a month for at least 18 months meaning it'd cost £474.
The cost of simply adding multiscreen with cashback = £114. That and I may be moving house later on this year so that'll no doubt cost a new installation and setup fee.
Sky Q does sound great though, but there's catchup via ps4 for loads of stuff, and netflix for films etc. I don't need to record 4 programmes at once and watch two other ones live just yet!
Soldato
If indeed its using homeplug/powerplugs for the extra boxes then how does it overcome the issue when your sky box is downstairs and you want the extra box upstairs. If upstairs and downstairs are on different ring circuits homeplugs wont work. I know I fell into that trap before. You have to somehow bridge the gap between the ring circuits to connect them together via extra homeplugs but if they are not near each other you may as well just run some cat5/6
Sometimes you also struggle to get HD quality through homeplugs.
This is getting on my nerves with Sky being obsessed with everything wireless.
Soldato
This isn't the case. Ring circuits are connected to each other and every other circuit for that matter. They all interconnect at the fuse board.
Powerline adaptors work across separate ring mains.
Man of Honour
I'm not aware of how Powerline adapters actually work but but all circuits certainly aren't connected at a fuse board so it may cause issues if they're on separate circuits.
A high integrity installation with split loads, RCD's and/or a number of RCBO's ensure that all circuits are not connected.
Soldato
Everything is kind of connected in one way, you only have one L-N and main earth coming in. I'm not sure how they work either, but I do know the will work on sperate circuits.
Soldato
All neutrals are common at the neutral bar, all lives are common at the busbar that feeds each protective device.
Everything is connected when it's all switched on. The MCBs etc are effectively straight through joints in the circuit that are designed to break portions of the installation into separate isolation upon overcurrent faults etc.
Powerline adapters work across multiple ring mains and radials.
Soldato
They dont in our house. I've proved it with several different types of adaptors. Also the same at my brother in laws house and also at my parents.
If they are on the same ring they can see each other. If one is upstairs and one is downstairs they dont see each other. Like has been said it depends on the Fuse box and how its wired they arent all connected to enable powerplugs to operate.
Electricity frequency is 50/60hz and powerplugs use higher frequencies which allow the packets to flow through the wires on the your house without interferring with the electricty flow. However at the fusebox these higher frequencies can be blocked because the common fusebox doesnt take into account powerplugs and the interconnects dont allow it. It can act a bit like an incidental firewall in some respects. Possibly due to the age of the fusebox this is why you cant use them on different rings.
I just dusted off my homeplugs and tried it again and it doesnt work for me upstairs/downstairs only on the same floor.
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I believe RCDs have a negative impact on powerline adapters. There has to be something which reduces the signal strength or stops them working altogether (aside from the length of the circuit), otherwise a powerline adapter in one house is technically connected to every other house in the street, and maybe the whole town/city.
Soldato
I'm not 100% but I believe the earthing system can have an effect. RCD's look for residual currents on the earth and will isolate the circuit at currents higher than 30mA. If there is no earth current higher than 30mA then they basically act like a link in the circuit just like any other circuit breaker. Nothing in your fuse box should be suppressing frequency (which will be 50Hz, not 60Hz which is marine frequency).
Both my ring mains are on a separate RCD from each other, and the powerline adaptors work. I don't doubt that people are having issues with them, but the issue can't be 100% down to separate circuits as people have them working on separate circuits (like me).
Anyway, I'm sure everyone's heard enough about Amps and Volts!
I have a mid-range Sky subscription and fibre broadband, but I am struggling to understand the hype behind this. I realise that Sky wish to improve their profits like all business, but this seems like an iterative change to their current service i.e. what you'd expect them to roll out just to remain competitive in their current pricing structure.
If it was something like 4K broadcasts on all channels then I might actually start getting excited, get a new TV and pay more money to Sky. As it is...meh.
If it was something like 4K broadcasts on all channels then I might actually start getting excited, get a new TV and pay more money to Sky. As it is...meh.
Soldato
Powerline adapter should work fine across rings so it must be something strange in your wiring certainly anything reasonably modern should present no issues.
I can't see 4k ever coming to more than maybe a dozen channels. There are also far more channels Sky has no control over than channels that they do. And the content itself just isn't there. To begin with I believe it will be one sports channel, one movie channel and one entertainment channel.