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Skylake Clockspeeds and benchmarks!

MSTRBKR said:
What price range seems likely for a 6700k, £250-300? Just wondering if we can expect it to be around the price of a 4790k due to the similarities in performance. Hopefully cheaper (obviously) :p
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Should be the same price as a 4790K. Maybe £10-30 higher the first week or two, as usual for new releases.
 
Shampoo said:
Given how underwhelming Skyake's turned out to be for desktop users, would a 5820 be a reasonable upgrade path from 4790K?
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Skylake's not released yet. The benchmarks here are leaked ones - they may be all fake for all we know.

We also don't know Skylake's overclocking potential. It may overclock extremely well.

Don't consider anything fact in this thread :)
 
Orangey said:
Not sure but the Skylake GPU is supposed to be a lot better.
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Dave2150 said:
Skylake has native X265 encoding support on the IGPU, so I'd wait for that.
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Thanks, good point on the native X265 encoding aswell. Will be interesting how the eDRAM works out.

Appreciate they are tricky questions to answer this early, the reviewers don't help either by not testing QuickSync performance. Makes it tricky to get an overall picture.

Think I'll go Broadwell on launch while waiting for Skylake to release and lose the initial price premium. Then start saving for a couple of E5-2699 v3's.
 
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Orangey said:
OCing is irrelevant, unless it goes above 5GHz which it doesn't judging by stock clocks.
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Overclocking is very relevant - we're posting on 'Overclockers UK' forum after all, of course people care about this stuff.

Stock clocks don't represent the overclocking potential of a CPU, or CPU process. Never have, never will.

For all we know Skylake could overclock well. It could also not overclock at all, we just don't know. No-one has tried overclocking using Intel's new 14nm process yet.
 
Orangey, the point is we don't know how it will overclock, so don't know how big or small the performance difference is. Clock for clock it will be faster, how much faster depends on how well it overclocks from stock, so overclocking is relevant.

If you want a 50% increase then go away and sit on sandy until it's a bottleneck then upgrade. If your doing something more demanding than gaming, then every scrap of performance helps and it's worth considering an upgrade whatever the performance increase turns out to be.
 
smilertoo said:
They seem to have given up on power reductions in order to have better iGP, something only a minority of users ever use. Does the cpu power down the iGP if it's not being used or is that power just wasted going nowhere?
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When you say a "minority" I'm sure you mean a minority of high-end users. Because that iGPU is used a hell of a lot by non-performance users in non high-end systems.
 
smilertoo said:
They seem to have given up on power reductions in order to have better iGP, something only a minority of users ever use. Does the cpu power down the iGP if it's not being used or is that power just wasted going nowhere?
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If it's not in use then I'm sure the power use and thermal impact of it will be next to nothing. It does however waste a huge amount of die space that could have been used for better performance.

e.g. IvyBridge and Haswell die pictures in the reviews linked

http://www.extremetech.com/computin...iew-ivy-bridge-lower-power-better-performance
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7003/the-haswell-review-intel-core-i74770k-i54560k-tested

madindehead said:
When you say a "minority" I'm sure you mean a minority of high-end users. Because that iGPU is used a hell of a lot by non-performance users in non high-end systems.
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In the case of people buying Unlocked processors or processors for gaming PCs, then I would say it is a minority, as opposed to the standard I3's and I5's that are used in millions of Business PCs, where onboard is good enough.

I would love it if Intel made some GPU-less processors - you could easily fit 2 more cores into either Ivybridge or Haswell with no on-die gpu. But they still have no competition from AMD at present, so have no need to improve mainstream CPUs further.
 
Armageus said:
I would love it if Intel made some GPU-less processors - you could easily fit 2 more cores into either Ivybridge or Haswell with no on-die gpu. But they still have no competition from AMD at present, so have no need to improve mainstream CPUs further.
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Haswell-E is your friend there. Those are GPU-less processors. And they do have 2 more cores.

At the end of the day, the high-end market is but a tiny portion of their market. They make what sells to the majority. We should be happy that they make the E-line at all! Of course they aren't going to push themselves when they don't need to, and AMD shows no sign of being able to catch up.
 
Intel make the E line for workstations that don't require 1TB RAM, I'm pretty sure. AIBs sell their stuff with gaming rice but I fear Intel would drop the platform if it became purely gaming focused.
 
This thread is advancing too fast for me to keep up! I'm a little disappointed with Skylake tbh, as many others have said; no mainstream hex cores from intel. Which sucks because I can't afford the jump to x99 but could easily make use of all them cores! Also, only dual channel ddr4? If the 6700k is hitting speeds almost equivalent with the 5820k, then either its held back by dual channel ram or quad channel counts for little in the (possibly fabricated) bechies I have seen around. *edit* Well, that could all be a load of bull, a passing thought of mine really, but food for thought nonetheless.

On the plus side, my 3770k seems like a really good investment from a gaming point of view.
 
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TBH,I am more excited by the socketed Broadwell part with Iris Pro graphics - these could make for some small,quiet and decent productivity based boxes,since the IGP should have some decent compute abilities.
 
Dave2150 said:
Yes, in 2016. Probably late 2016.

First we'll have Broadwell-E on 2011v3, using existing x99 motherboards. That's unless Intel decide to cancel/skip it, as they pretty much did for desktop.
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I hope Skylake-E comes in 2016, even if it is late 2016.

2017 would be delaying it by quite a bit.
 
Skeptical that are they gonna launch two Es in the same year.

Cannonlake has been pushed back to 2017 so maybe they could use it to massage the disappointing sales numbers in 2016.
 
Orangey said:
Skeptical that are they gonna launch two Es in the same year.

Cannonlake has been pushed back to 2017 so maybe they could use it to massage the disappointing sales numbers in 2016.
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Intel's sales records show record profits, up year after year.

I think you'll find their 2015/2016 sales numbers will be even better than this years - since we're getting a brand new architecture, Skylake.

Remember that Haswell has been out since June 2013 on desktop - so a new architecture release will serve to deliver greater sales records than the year before.

2015/2016 are looking fantastic for Intel.
 
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