Skylake Clockspeeds and benchmarks!

NMBlack · 4 May 2015 at 13:56

implosiveturnip said:
Sorry if I have missed something here, but has it been confirmed that Skylake will need a new socket for sure? As the spec so far says DDR4 *OR* DDR3L, so would it not be feasible that Skylake may yet release on Z97 as well as a new chipset supporting DDR4? Or am I on crack right now?

Skylake chips will have one extra pin compared to haswell/dc, so they won't fit in z97 sockets.

Drollic · 4 May 2015 at 16:47

I'll be tempted to go for an i7 then the next nvidia flagship card so I can make the jump to 1440p at 60fps. Are we going to see games make more use of i7's as more time goes on in order to max settings?

Evian · 4 May 2015 at 17:40

Drollic said:
I'll be tempted to go for an i7 then the next nvidia flagship card so I can make the jump to 1440p at 60fps. Are we going to see games make more use of i7's as more time goes on in order to max settings?

I'd guess more developers will start to use the hyper threading more.

Dave2150 · 4 May 2015 at 20:50

Updated roadmap:

Broadwell-C April, May and June (Q2)

Skylake-k July, August and September (Q3)

Broadwell-E January, February and March (Q1 2016)

Source: http://diy.pconline.com.cn/637/6375701.html

Skylake is on track

Orangey · 4 May 2015 at 21:03

No it's not.

http://www.pcgamer.com/intel-skylake-processors-reportedly-delayed-until-late-august/

Dave2150 · 4 May 2015 at 21:19

Orangey said:
No it's not.

http://www.pcgamer.com/intel-skylake-processors-reportedly-delayed-until-late-august/

? Do you not understand the months of the year? :confused:

What I wrote:

"Skylake-k July, August and September (Q3)" - as the roadmaps shows.

You proceed to link to an article claiming Skylake will release in August - which is within Q3 and explicitly written in my post.

Again I have the feeling you just want to troll, reply to everyone one of my posts with a contradictory statement, then posting a link to something that confirms what I originally posted.

Orangey · 5 May 2015 at 00:25

It was supposed to launch in Q2, which the article says?

Not sure how it being delayed = "on track"? :confused:

Dave2150 · 5 May 2015 at 01:18

Orangey said:
It was supposed to launch in Q2, which the article says?

Not sure how it being delayed = "on track"?

The roadmap was updated to 2H 2015 for Skylake months and months ago.

The Q2 was mentioned in some very old roadmaps, dating back to June/July 2014 - those roadmaps are completely out of date now.

Skylake is 'on track' for 2H 2015, as has been for many months now, then the new roadmap leaked yesterday has refined that date to Q3.

esoteric · 6 May 2015 at 18:12

I read an article last night about DX12, that it can use on board GPU's in tandem with dedicated GPU's.

So, Skylake may have something else up it's sleeve yet, depends on how good these on board GPU's are and if devs utilize it.

Dave2150 · 6 May 2015 at 21:56

Another benchmark, again confirming a 15% IPC increase over Haswell!

Today someone ran geekbench3 on a I5 6600K. Engineering sample, or maybe an Intel employee having fun, who knows.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/2491359

I5 6600K = 3967 Single Core Score

Comparing to an identically clocked Haswell I5 4690k (3.5Ghz, 3.9Ghz turbo)

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/2495318

I5 4690K = 3426 Single Core Score

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Skylake I5 6600K (3.5Ghz, 3.9Ghz turbo, 6MB L3 Cache)= 3967
Haswell I5 4690K (3.5Ghz, 3.9Ghz turbo, 6MB L3 Cache)= 3426

Showing how I calculated the percentage, since Boomstick has a hard time understanding them! (j/k):

3967-3426 = 541
541/3426 = 0.1579100992410975
0.1579100992410975x100 = Rounded up to a nice 15% IPC increase

Hopefully we'll get some overclocking leaks soon! If this thing clocks well, it will be the best architecture since Sandybridge.

Also wanted to note that the motherboard the 6600k was tested on was the 'ASRock Z170 Gaming K6', it would appear Skylake is most likely fully ready to launch. Motherboards are ready, perhaps only waiting on mass production to produce enough to satisfy the most likely insane demand on release

pastymuncher · 7 May 2015 at 12:53

Both done on different version of Geekbench though. The 4690k was done on v 3.3.2 yet the 6600k was done on the older v 3.1.2. Why would you run a older version apart from making a cpu look better than it actually is? The comparisons of Cinebench at the begining of the thread are the same. You can't compare scores between R11.5 and R15 as they are different. Benchmarks need to be the same version or they are useless.

Dave2150 · 7 May 2015 at 19:53

pastymuncher said:
Both done on different version of Geekbench though. The 4690k was done on v 3.3.2 yet the 6600k was done on the older v 3.1.2. Why would you run a older version apart from making a cpu look better than it actually is? The comparisons of Cinebench at the begining of the thread are the same. You can't compare scores between R11.5 and R15 as they are different. Benchmarks need to be the same version or they are useless.

Hopefully more benchmarks will get leaked soon, with identical versions of the benchmark. I didn't notice the versions of geekbench were different.

Orangey · 7 May 2015 at 19:58

The benches were apparently actually guesses based on available information originally posted on a Turkish site.

Dave2150 · 7 May 2015 at 20:51

Orangey said:
The benches were apparently actually guesses based on available information originally posted on a Turkish site.

The geekbench wasn't a guess, it was validated on their website.

Best to link sources to statements, or these forums would be full of statements like that.

For example "A Egyptian website found that Skylake can overclock reliably to 23Ghz"

Boomstick777 · 9 May 2015 at 18:39

Orangey said:
The benches were apparently actually guesses based on available information originally posted on a Turkish site.

Lol, so we have no real idea how these perform yet then. Best to wait for reviews.

How many here will be willing to switch from 4770K / 4790K is it's over 10% quicker?

Is it even worth it?

psychas · 10 May 2015 at 15:36

why 5775c above 6700k isnt it broadwell

Boomstick777 · 10 May 2015 at 16:15

psychas said:
why 5775c above 6700k isnt it broadwell

Wandered the same thing, nobody knows?

Jokester · 10 May 2015 at 16:23

Because it sits between the 5820K and 4970K when it's released?

The 6*** series is then going to replace the 4***, whilst the 5*** is still going to remain for sale.

Orangey · 10 May 2015 at 16:26

Intel like to play mind tricks with their charts.

Quite often on their roadmaps they will make the release date of new chips very vague by overlapping two arch's like this:

They do like their arrows.

Dave2150 · 10 May 2015 at 20:29

Boomstick777 said:
Lol, so we have no real idea how these perform yet then. Best to wait for reviews.

How many here will be willing to switch from 4770K / 4790K is it's over 10% quicker?

Is it even worth it?

Orangey failed to give any source for his accusation that both benches were fake, even when I asked him in an earlier post.

You and I, and others, have already commented several times in this thread that it would not be a wise decision to upgrade from Haswell to Skylake. There's simply not going to be enough difference to warrant it. Even if Skylake had 20% improved IPC and similar clocks - the difference in games would be only a couple of FPS etc.

Instead it's the Nehalem and Sandy Bridge users (possibly Ivy Bridge, due to the age of the chipset) that would see the most benefit. It would be like night and day upgrading from a I7 900 series to the top Skylake model, for example.

Then you have to factor in the huge improvements in the Z170 chipset - namely the DMI upgrade from v2 to v3 - which upgrades the link between the PCH and CPU from PCI-E V2 (as found on Z97, Z87 etc) to PCI-E v3 - giving loads of bandwidth to support PCI-E NVME SSD's, without any bottleneck.