Skylake Clockspeeds and benchmarks!

Dave2150 · 2 Jul 2015 at 19:23

esoteric said:
So about £295 at the lowest for a 6700k.

Could be - though these 'leaked' prices are simply the price that some retailers are currently listing them at. We've had no official pricing from Intel yet - so these early prices might just be inflated.

subbytna · 3 Jul 2015 at 14:23

I'd say that OCUK will want to keep the price under the psychological £300 mark and will sell these foe 299 for the lowest 6700

6700k will probably be sold for £320 upwards. UK rip off rates remember

nadesicod25 · 3 Jul 2015 at 14:33

My i7 920 is going to have a proper send off! will put it in a bucket full of moet champagne for it's most loyal performance in its near 8 year life with me.

Armadillo · 3 Jul 2015 at 18:10

Surely they can't price the 6700K over £300. The 5829K is only £320. I'd rather go x99 and have the extra cores if the 6700K is a silly price.

Gazb · 3 Jul 2015 at 22:02

Armadillo said:
Surely they can't price the 6700K over £300. The 5829K is only £320. I'd rather go x99 and have the extra cores if the 6700K is a silly price.

Depends on how much IPC improvement there actually is, plus the enthusiast (X99 series) motherboards tend to be quite a bit more expensive than the motherboards for mainstream Intel cpu's. (Though I have seen some Z series mobos, priced well into the enthusiast X99 mobo price range. Which I find rather odd, as you'd think the buyer would be better going for X99 at that point)

Craterloads · 4 Jul 2015 at 02:39

Will probably be jumping on the Skylake bandwagon, sold all my Haswel gear last week as used prices were very good plus I don't see anything in the near future gaming wise to hold onto it for.

Actually wanted to wait till NVidia Pascal but that's probably a while out yet, mid next year possibly.

But was assuming with skylake the platform will be supported for at least a couple of years with the canonlake die shrink just being a straight CPU swap?

Orangey · 4 Jul 2015 at 06:59

Cannonlake is pushed off to 2017, there will be a refresh of Skylake instead.

Cannonlake may end up being the next Broadwell where they release a token effort but the platform only gets one real product line released for it. Then Icelake or whatever it ends up being called would be on a new chipset in 2018/2019.

haszek · 4 Jul 2015 at 07:24

Not sure if this info was posted before, apparently launch is 1st week of August according to link (for the K processors)
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2943204/computer-processors/intels-first-skylake-chips-coming-in-august.html

Silent_Scone · 4 Jul 2015 at 08:55

I'd imagine it's a bit later than that

Greebo · 4 Jul 2015 at 11:11

Dave2150 said:
Quite a few Q6600 and I7 920 owners in here ready to buy Skylake, not long to wait

Well as a 950 owner I was going to go sky lake as well but dropped 50 quid on a hex core Xeon. Realised that in reality I would gain nothing from sky lake yet except cost.

Pleiades · 4 Jul 2015 at 11:52

Dave2150 said:
Broadwell for desktop is available to buy right now, has been for a week or two.

Seems to be in thin supply, hardly anyone selling it (inc. OCUK it appears).

I'd still be interested if it dropped below £200 (i5).... only because I have a Z97 and Pentium G3258 so it'd be a big upgrade but a lot cheaper than new mobo, cpu, memory etc with Skylake (which I'm not convinced is going to be any more thrilling than Broadwell turned out to be)...

Dave2150 · 4 Jul 2015 at 12:46

Greebo said:
Well as a 950 owner I was going to go sky lake as well but dropped 50 quid on a hex core Xeon. Realised that in reality I would gain nothing from sky lake yet except cost.

For some, upgrading from a x58 i7 to the 6 core Xeons is a good move.

For others (including me) the platform is just too old. I'm planning to upgrade to the following at the same time as my Skylake build:

1. Samsung SM951 Nvme PCI-E SSD (M.2 not supported on X58)
2. Samsung 850 EVO 1TB Gaming Drive (Sata 3 not supported on X58)
3. To utilize my current USB3 Devices at USB3 speeds (x58 supports USB2)
4. To run a FuryX/980ti at PCI-E V3 speeds (X58 is PCI-E V2 only)
5. To calibrate all my case fans with UEFI PWM Fan control (No PWM case fan connectors on X58, no UEFI for efficient fan control either)

To top it all off, especially in this current weather, I've grown tired of my overclocked x58 system using 150W power at idle - I'm looking forward to the 6700k idleing at 20-30W - far less heat produced overall

That said, for those who use their PC for rendering and will not make use of the new technologies/IO etc on Z170, a hex core Xeon is still a good buy. Just not an option for me.

DmitryD · 4 Jul 2015 at 16:05

Armadillo said:
Surely they can't price the 6700K over £300. The 5829K is only £320. I'd rather go x99 and have the extra cores if the 6700K is a silly price.

They can easily if they stop selling 5829K...

Craterloads · 5 Jul 2015 at 02:22

Orangey said:
Cannonlake is pushed off to 2017, there will be a refresh of Skylake instead.

Cannonlake may end up being the next Broadwell where they release a token effort but the platform only gets one real product line released for it. Then Icelake or whatever it ends up being called would be on a new chipset in 2018/2019.

Isn't canonlake a refresh of skylake at a smaller nm?

I thought Haswell was new architecture, broadwell a die shrink and skylake again new architecture and canonlake being a die shrink.

tbh · 5 Jul 2015 at 03:02

Craterloads said:
Isn't canonlake a refresh of skylake at a smaller nm?

Haswell (22nm) -> Devils Canyon (22nm refresh) -> Broadwell (14nm shrink)
Skylake (14nm) -> Kaby Lake (14nm refresh) -> Canonlake (10m shrink)

Gazb · 5 Jul 2015 at 11:41

Dave2150 said:
For some, upgrading from a x58 i7 to the 6 core Xeons is a good move.

For others (including me) the platform is just too old. I'm planning to upgrade to the following at the same time as my Skylake build:

1. Samsung SM951 Nvme PCI-E SSD (M.2 not supported on X58)
2. Samsung 850 EVO 1TB Gaming Drive (Sata 3 not supported on X58)
3. To utilize my current USB3 Devices at USB3 speeds (x58 supports USB2)
4. To run a FuryX/980ti at PCI-E V3 speeds (X58 is PCI-E V2 only)
5. To calibrate all my case fans with UEFI PWM Fan control (No PWM case fan connectors on X58, no UEFI for efficient fan control either)

To top it all off, especially in this current weather, I've grown tired of my overclocked x58 system using 150W power at idle - I'm looking forward to the 6700k idleing at 20-30W - far less heat produced overall

That said, for those who use their PC for rendering and will not make use of the new technologies/IO etc on Z170, a hex core Xeon is still a good buy. Just not an option for me.

I agree with you points for upgrading from X58, my i7 920 has served me extremely well, but which ever platform I get next needs to run cooler and use less power.
Skylake is the prime candidate, but X99 may end up being the better option for me if I ever want to do some Virtual Machine work due to Intel disabling the VT-d features on the mainstream CPU's.
X99 is still a good improvement in heat generated and power usage over my X58 so it would still be a good upgrade.

Dave2150 · 5 Jul 2015 at 17:37

Gazb said:
I agree with you points for upgrading from X58, my i7 920 has served me extremely well, but which ever platform I get next needs to run cooler and use less power.
Skylake is the prime candidate, but X99 may end up being the better option for me if I ever want to do some Virtual Machine work due to Intel disabling the VT-d features on the mainstream CPU's.
X99 is still a good improvement in heat generated and power usage over my X58 so it would still be a good upgrade.

4790k and 6700k support VT-x and VT-D etc, so no issue there

Gazb · 5 Jul 2015 at 18:52

Dave2150 said:
4790k and 6700k support VT-x and VT-D etc, so no issue there

That's good to know. I know that when I was looking at the 4770K it didn't support those features but the 4770 non K did.

Orangey · 5 Jul 2015 at 21:10

Just no VT-d on the 4770K, but it does have VT-x.

That is strange, why do they do that?

DragonQ · 5 Jul 2015 at 23:14

Orangey said:
Just no VT-d on the 4770K, but it does have VT-x.

That is strange, why do they do that?

Probably want business customers to use the more expensive Xeons rather than Core i7s for servers.