Skylake Clockspeeds and benchmarks!

[Jokester]

Yeah, wouldn't have minded two on the Extreme.

 

[RavenXXX2]

I wonder if this will be worth over haswell i5 4690k....I would have to buy new rams/cpu/mobo....for the i7 and 16gb of ram I am looking for £500 at least....

Nope. Anyone on sandy, ivy or haswell need not look at skylake, it's just another tiny boost.

AMD need to get their ass in to gear because Intel are taking the ****.

 

[Dave2150]

If the price is like they mentioned 220-250$ it's kinda high for a board with single m2 slot.

The extreme kinda does have two:



1x M.2
1x U.2 (U.2 = new name for SFF-8639, which is exactly the same speed as M.2, to facilitate 2.5" PCI-E SSD's).

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9363/sff8639-connector-renamed-as-u2

For example, the Intel 750 SSD comes in two flavours, one being the PCI-E x4 add in card, the other being a traditional 2.5" drive, with a U.2 (SFF-8639) connection:

 

[Boomstick777]

Why is M.2 a big deal? X99 has 10GB/s M.2 Sata Mobo's from £150.

These Skylake higher end mobo's will likely cost the same maybe even more at launch. 5820K + X99 is surely the better option in every metric.

I am interested to see some Skylake Xeon chips though, whatever replaces the Xeon 1230L and 1240L could be amazing for HTPC, low power PC gaming etc.

That aside, Broadwell -E and Skylake -E will be nice for all dem cores and lower power consumption.

 

[Dave2150]

Why is M.2 a big deal? X99 has 10GB/s M.2 Sata Mobo's from £150.

These Skylake higher end mobo's will likely cost the same maybe even more at launch. 5820K + X99 is surely the better option in every metric.

I am interested to see some Skylake Xeon chips though, whatever replaces the Xeon 1230L and 1240L could be amazing for HTPC, low power PC gaming etc.

That aside, Broadwell -E and Skylake -E will be nice for all dem cores and lower power consumption.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, Boomstick. Those who like/want Skylake will buy it. Those who prefer X99 will buy that instead. We still don't have to crap on other people's choices/decisions, as they don't match our own opinions.

X99 and Z170 will simply have different uses for different people. X99 will be the more expensive choice, since the CPU's cost more, motherboards cost more, and you need 4X RAM sticks to take advantage of the quad channel memory. Skylake/Z170 only has a dual channel memory controller, so 2 sticks of RAM will be enough.

For those using 1-2 GPU's, Skylake Z170 will likely offer more performance in games, since games love IPC and clockspeed, and don't use more than 4 cores at the moment.

For those who use their gaming PC for productivity, video editing, encoding etc etc, then obviously the 6 and 8 core X99 are the better choice.

M.2/U.2 are the future of SSD's, that's why people are interested in them buddy Nice to have the latest connectivity options when you upgrade, such as U.2 and M.2.

 

[Datass]

1x U.2 (U.2 = new name for SFF-8639, which is exactly the same speed as M.2, to facilitate 2.5" PCI-E SSD's

I take it they are pushing that U.2 connector then? Thought that was just a temp thing, is this going to be obsolete in 2 years?

 

[Dave2150]

I take it they are pushing that U.2 connector then? Thought that was just a temp thing, is this going to be obsolete in 2 years?

It's really hard to say. If Asus only put a U.2 connector on their top of the line Extreme (£300+) motherboard, then U.2 won't be having any significant market penetration soon, which will discourage Samsung, Crucial etc to release U.2 mainstream SSD's.

I think PCI-E/NVME SSD's will be a enthusiast product for a year or two or more, then maybe we'll eventually see U.2/M.2 on the mainstream and budget boards in the future.

 

[Orangey]

The cables are thicker than Hillary Clinton's ankles

 

[Dave2150]

Intel Skylake Non-K Processors Will Feature Overclocking Support With Adjustable BCLK, Memory and iGPU OC



Good news for anyone wanting to pickup a cheap CPU and try to overclock it

http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-nonk-processors-feature-overclocking-support-adjustable-bclk-memory-igpu-oc/#ixzz3h6rD1PVm

 

[Boomstick777]

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, Boomstick. Those who like/want Skylake will buy it. Those who prefer X99 will buy that instead. We still don't have to crap on other people's choices/decisions, as they don't match our own opinions.

X99 and Z170 will simply have different uses for different people. X99 will be the more expensive choice, since the CPU's cost more, motherboards cost more, and you need 4X RAM sticks to take advantage of the quad channel memory. Skylake/Z170 only has a dual channel memory controller, so 2 sticks of RAM will be enough.

For those using 1-2 GPU's, Skylake Z170 will likely offer more performance in games, since games love IPC and clockspeed, and don't use more than 4 cores at the moment.

For those who use their gaming PC for productivity, video editing, encoding etc etc, then obviously the 6 and 8 core X99 are the better choice.

M.2/U.2 are the future of SSD's, that's why people are interested in them buddy Nice to have the latest connectivity options when you upgrade, such as U.2 and M.2.

Not sure why you got personal there, if everyone is entitled to an opinion, Why are you getting personal when I say X99 is a better choice? That's my opinion lol. Nobody is crapping on anything

If your spending for the top range Skylake chip, in my opinion lol it makes way more sense to go X99 + 5820K for the 50% extra CPU at similar cost, plus the other stuff like quad channel etc.

For smaller form factors Skylake looks like it could be great.

I plan on picking up another Zbox or similar at some point (I'm done with traditional desktop for now), a Skylake one would be awesome, 14nm and hopefully true quad i5's rather than these dual cores you get atm.

 

[Dave2150]

Not sure why you got personal there, if everyone is entitled to an opinion, Why are you getting personal when I say X99 is a better choice? That's my opinion lol. Nobody is crapping on anything

If your spending for the top range Skylake chip, in my opinion lol it makes way more sense to go X99 + 5820K for the 50% extra CPU at similar cost, plus the other stuff like quad channel etc.

For smaller form factors Skylake looks like it could be great.

I plan on picking up another Zbox or similar at some point (I'm done with traditional desktop for now), a Skylake one would be awesome, 14nm and hopefully true quad i5's rather than these dual cores you get atm.

The issue is that you've said the same thing around 5-10 times in this thread alone. It gets old after a while, we all know your thoughts.

It just seems that you refuse to let others have fun as the release date approaches and the hype builds, you come along with your usual "Skylake sucks, X99 is a better buy, x99 is cheaper, faster quiter, clocks better , has soldered ihs, plus I bought it, so should you" every few posts.

Just accept the fact that having 2 or 4 extra cores is pointless for many people. We'd prefer higher IPC cores, less heat, lower power consumption and all the goodies that come along with the new platform.

 

[Boomstick777]

The issue is that you've said the same thing around 5-10 times in this thread alone. It gets old after a while, we all know your thoughts.

It just seems that you refuse to let others have fun as the release date approaches and the hype builds, you come along with your usual "Skylake sucks, X99 is a better buy, x99 is cheaper, faster quiter, clocks better , has soldered ihs, plus I bought it, so should you" every few posts.

Just accept the fact that having 2 or 4 extra cores is pointless for many people. We'd prefer higher IPC cores, less heat, lower power consumption and all the goodies that come along with the new platform.

'Refuse to let others have fun', come on mate get a grip.

So basically you said everyone is entitled to option, but that's as long as that opinion agrees with yours, like a dictatorship. Got ya.

Oh and now extra cores are pointless, ok then but that's fine for you to say as it 's your opinion. But if I reply with my opinion I will be stopping fun lol.

 

[Brian18741]

Wow AMD really need to get their act together now!

 

[bfar]

Not sure why you got personal there, if everyone is entitled to an opinion, Why are you getting personal when I say X99 is a better choice? That's my opinion lol. Nobody is crapping on anything

If your spending for the top range Skylake chip, in my opinion lol it makes way more sense to go X99 + 5820K for the 50% extra CPU at similar cost, plus the other stuff like quad channel etc.

For smaller form factors Skylake looks like it could be great.

I plan on picking up another Zbox or similar at some point (I'm done with traditional desktop for now), a Skylake one would be awesome, 14nm and hopefully true quad i5's rather than these dual cores you get atm.

As a gamer, the higher icp and lower power consumption are probably worth more to me. X99 is a very compelling alternative for workstation use though.

 

[Dave2150]

'Refuse to let others have fun', come on mate get a grip.

So basically you said everyone is entitled to option, but that's as long as that opinion agrees with yours, like a dictatorship. Got ya.

Oh and now extra cores are pointless, ok then but that's fine for you to say as it 's your opinion. But if I reply with my opinion I will be stopping fun lol.

As you can see from the post just after yours:

As a gamer, the higher icp and lower power consumption are probably worth more to me. X99 is a very compelling alternative for workstation use though.

It's not just me with this opinion. I'm not alone in not needing more than 4 cores for my gaming PC.

 

[Boomstick777]

As a gamer, the higher icp and lower power consumption are probably worth more to me. X99 is a very compelling alternative for workstation use though.

Agreed, yeah and if that's what your after it's ideal. For a typical desktop large case PC I would always recommend X99 as you are getting more CPU and quad channel for similar cost.

For smaller form factors Skylake looks really good. I am looking to pick up an updated Zbox in the future as I'm moving away from traditional desktop now. Would def get a Skylake based system for that purpose. Hopefully we will see true quad channel i5 CPU's in low power devices, my current Zbox i5 is only dual core / 4 thread.

As you can see from the post just after yours:



It's not just me with this opinion. I'm not alone in not needing more than 4 cores for my gaming PC.

That's great if it suits your purpose. For me if someone is looking at the higher end mainstream stuff and a typical desktop build I would always recommend X99 as you are getting more cores / cache. Quad channel memory and a soldered chip for a similar cost.

For small form factors things like Skylake are ideal.

You keep saying people are entitled to different opinions, therefore my opinion shouldn't bother you, or require you to make personal comments. I can agree to disagree why can't you?

 

[skiersteve321]

so for someone like me who only games, skylake is the way to go? im rocking a i7 970 at the moment lol

 

[Dave2150]

so for someone like me who only games, skylake is the way to go? im rocking a i7 970 at the moment lol

Pretty much, yes.

We'll have to wait for the official review on August 4th/5th to know for sure how good Skylake is, though it's looking very encouraging so far.

Skylake will have the fastest 4 CPU cores known to mankind. As we all know, games love high speed/IPC more than anything else, meaning Skylake should be the fastest gaming CPU available, out of the box, if you're using 1 or two GPU's.

For those using 3-4 GPU's in Crossfire/SLI, then X99 is the way to go, due to the extra PCI-E lanes.

 

[Boomstick777]

so for someone like me who only games, skylake is the way to go? im rocking a i7 970 at the moment lol

Would be an awesome upgrade from i7 970, not just the CPU but the platform as well. Newer motherboard features and DDR4.

Go for it.

I def see the Skylake i5 + decent priced motherboards as being the new sweet spot for gaming.

 

[Dave2150]

That's great if it suits your purpose. For me if someone is looking at the higher end mainstream stuff and a typical desktop build I would always recommend X99 as you are getting more cores / cache. Quad channel memory and a soldered chip for a similar cost.

For small form factors things like Skylake are ideal.

You keep saying people are entitled to different opinions, therefore my opinion shouldn't bother you, or require you to make personal comments. I can agree to disagree why can't you?

Of course you're welcome to your own opinion. Time will tell, though if Skylake will be as good as many of us believe it will be, I can see you buying a 6700k/z170 board on the day of release, even though you've done nothing but bash Skylake in this thread so far.

Time will tell, I'll be sure to quote all your negative Skylake posts if you do another U-turn like you have so many times before