Yea. I'm pretty sure that Broadwell-E and Broadwell-C are not cancelled though - though why this roadmaps omits them is anyone's guess.
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Skylake Clockspeeds and benchmarks!
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Yea. I'm pretty sure that Broadwell-E and Broadwell-C are not cancelled though - though why this roadmaps omits them is anyone's guess.
That roadmap is a client roadmap hence the differences between that and the other consumer roadmap. Both look legit.
Client.
Consumer.
I'm aware of the consumer roadmap, since that's the image I uploaded to imgur a few days ago, which you just relinked in your post
I'm simply questioning this new 'client' roadmap, since it fails to mention Broadwell for desktop/HEDT at all, something Intel just would not do unless it was cancelled, which we know it's not. Hence I believe it to be fake.
14nm. The multithread speed will be 4100 or 4200 MHz, so very close as 4790K. Performance a bit better, specialy in multithreads. Again, J.Lam is testing this chip and I think, he is not alone who have this chip in hands
We've seen a 15% IPC improvement so far over the 4790k. Now we just need to see how well these overclock
It's not rocket science buddy. 4790K (Haswell) to Skylake is a two generation jump.
Broadwell has already been proven in reviews to be a 5.5% IPC improvement over Haswell. Skylake would then be a 9-10% improvement over Broadwell, which isn't too much of a leap.
The leaked benchmarks we've had so far show a 15% improvement over Haswell. Orangey belives these to be fake, though refuses to link any sources to back up his claim. Maybe he's right, we'll see in the official reviews.
Regardless, If Skylake is less than a 10% improvement over Broadwell, it would look quite embarrassing to Intel, I doubt they'd release such a product product, when you consider that Skylake is a 'tock' and not a 'tick'.
I've got no need to be condescending when you say things like this. We already know that Broadwell is 5.5% faster than Haswell, so claiming that Skylake, the next 'tock' over Broadwell will only be 5% faster than Haswell is ludicrous, you've been reading fairy tails
Yes the 15% figure from benchmarks isn't confirmed yet, though it's not unreasonable to assume it could have some truth behind it - that would only be a 9.5% improvement from Broadwell to Skylake, something we've seen Intel being able to do many times in past years.
We're just like children at Christmas time, waiting for our presents
Definitely worth waiting for though
Skylake is a tock, so I'd imagine it would be at least 2 years until the next 'tock'.
Haswell for desktop was released June 2013, Skylake should be August 2015, so 2 years and 2 months between the most recent tocks (assuming Skylake does release in August).
If by some miraculous event Zen manages to release on time in 2016 and is superior to Intel's current CPU's, we may see a faster tock, though I highly doubt Zen will prove to be the product we all hope for.
PCI-E SSD's, such as the M.2 Samsung SM951 and the Intel 750 series take full advantage of PCI-E v3. They get absolutely cripped if you limit them to PCI-E v2.
GPU wise, there is a difference between PCI-E revisions in some games, even if using a single powerful GPU. 2way SLI and above obviously show a larger difference between PCI-E speeds.
This gap will only increase in time, as newer GPU's get even faster etc.
25-30MB for random 4K reads? Nope:
For typical client workloads, the vast majority of the data use is sequential reads, where these PCI-E V3 SSD's truly are x10 faster than any SATA3 drive.
We should make another thread to continue this, or we'll get way off topic
Yeh I'm not advocating a PCI-E SSD solely to speed up game loading, but for an OS drive, where it would make a massive difference, especially over someone using SATA2 at the moment.
Further confirmation of the August/September release date:
Source:http://benchlife.info/intel-skylake-replace-broadwell-start-from-q3-05202015/
Source:http://benchlife.info/intel-skylake-replace-broadwell-start-from-q3-05202015/
Another leak by 'Benchlife' - Asus' full Skylake motherboard range!
Source: http://benchlife.info/asus-z170-h170-and-h110-motherboard-leak-05212015/
Source: http://benchlife.info/asus-z170-h170-and-h110-motherboard-leak-05212015/
So what kind of performance increase can I expect from Lynnfield? 25%?
40-50% most likely
Another Z170 board leaked, this time with pictures:
Source: http://wccftech.com/biostar-unveils-skylake-ready-gaming-z170x4-lga-1151-socket-motherboard/
Source: http://wccftech.com/biostar-unveils-skylake-ready-gaming-z170x4-lga-1151-socket-motherboard/
The R15 scores for the 4790K seem quite low on these benchmarks, with only 805 points. A stock 4790k gets 894 on the official Anandtech review, for example.
I suspect it's down to the memory speed used, but we'll see.
Can't wait for the official reviews
I suspect it's down to the memory speed used, but we'll see.
Can't wait for the official reviews
I only checked Anandtech and Bit-Tech's 4790K official reviews. Anandtech reporting 894 and Bit-Tech reporting 882.
I wasn't aware that they were using enhanced multi-core in the stock benchmarks, I'll try and find confirmation.
Is this it? A 10-15% performance improvement over current DC chips? What else does Skylake offer other than a performance improvement that is minimal?
I was quite looking forward to a new system build when these come out, but it seems pointless unless I'm missing something obvious (which is more than possible).
10-15% IPC increase is quite solid over the 4790k IMO. It's more that we've had between two desktop mainstream CPU's for quite a few years. It's most likely the biggest jump we've had since Sandybridge.
We also get the vastly improved Z170 chipset - which has PCI-E v3 lanes from the CPU to PCH, giving much more bandwidth for PCI-E SSD's, compared to what Z97 can offer.
At the moment if you want to take advantage of a PCI-E SSD to it's fullest extent, you need a x99 system. Z170/Skylake will mean you don't
Also we are yet to see how well these Skylake CPU's will overclock - they may be absolute monsters! It's a good sign that the base clock is 4Ghz on the 6700K - which hasn't decreased from the 4790k, despite the new 14nm process.
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