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Skylake Clockspeeds and benchmarks!

mulpsmebeauty said:
Sorry for what's no doubt a repeat question. I've skimmed the thread without spotting the answer that's surely in here. I'm close to upgrading my whole system and planned on a 4690K as the CPU. Is the 10-15% increase for Skylake what I'm likely to see at the same price point? Given Intel's incremental updates I'm assuming the 4690K won't be immediately made redundant?
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Yes the Skylake 4690k equivalent (6600k) should come in at the same price point as the 4690k you were planning on.

It's completely up to you - though I'd recommend waiting for Skylake, as it's so close to release now and promises around 10-15% more performance over the 4690k, as well as far better chipset (z170).
 
JimboJet said:
Your 4690k is an excellent chip, cool it, overclock it. Most likely you wont notice an appreciable difference in games if you went to Skylake over say putting your funds towards a new graphics card. Based on past Intel releases, Skylake will be a small price increase over the current chips though expect some time for retailers to adjust to stable pricing after the initial early adopter premium.

My feeling is the 4690k is the new Q6600 chip and will last many yrs for ppl that don't succumb to the upgrade itch.
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He hasn't bought the 4690k yet - sounds like he's waiting for Skylake 6600k.
 
Sylver123 said:
If it is true that Intel has abandoned Broadwell, including Broadwell-E for the X99 platform for Skylake and a Skylake-E release earlier than expected, I wonder
if that means Intel are threatened by AMD Zen and knows even the X99 Haswell-E/Broadwell-E is not going to be fast enough to beat AMD Zen?

Why else would they push out Skylake-E earlier than expected?

I guess there is not a lot us X99 platform users can do about the fact that this platform is getting no more processor refreshes and is dead already.

I see there is still some confusion thought what socket Skylake-E will actually be on. Some are still suggestion of a Skylake-E being
possible compatible with the X99 platform or being on another new high end socket platform that Intel will be releasing
to take over the X99 platform at the high end of the market.
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Broadwell for desktop is available to buy right now, has been for a week or two.

Broadwell-E hasn't been cancelled (according to latest roadmaps) so expect that sometime early next year.

Skylake-E will not be compatible with X99, and will most likely be released in 2017.
 
Some news about Skylake prices - looks to be 13-19% more expensive than the Haswell equivalents:

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http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2015/2015063001_Pre-order_prices_of_Skylake_desktop_CPUs.html

I have no problem with these higher prices as long as the performance is there. We have to remember Intel have no competition and could have stuck with the 4790k as the top mainstream CPU for the next few years and it would have still sold well. Instead we have 14nm CPU's, a new architecture and a new chipset.
 
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Greebo said:
Well as a 950 owner I was going to go sky lake as well but dropped 50 quid on a hex core Xeon. Realised that in reality I would gain nothing from sky lake yet except cost.
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For some, upgrading from a x58 i7 to the 6 core Xeons is a good move.

For others (including me) the platform is just too old. I'm planning to upgrade to the following at the same time as my Skylake build:

1. Samsung SM951 Nvme PCI-E SSD (M.2 not supported on X58)
2. Samsung 850 EVO 1TB Gaming Drive (Sata 3 not supported on X58)
3. To utilize my current USB3 Devices at USB3 speeds (x58 supports USB2)
4. To run a FuryX/980ti at PCI-E V3 speeds (X58 is PCI-E V2 only)
5. To calibrate all my case fans with UEFI PWM Fan control (No PWM case fan connectors on X58, no UEFI for efficient fan control either)

To top it all off, especially in this current weather, I've grown tired of my overclocked x58 system using 150W power at idle - I'm looking forward to the 6700k idleing at 20-30W - far less heat produced overall :)

That said, for those who use their PC for rendering and will not make use of the new technologies/IO etc on Z170, a hex core Xeon is still a good buy. Just not an option for me.
 
Gazb said:
I agree with you points for upgrading from X58, my i7 920 has served me extremely well, but which ever platform I get next needs to run cooler and use less power.
Skylake is the prime candidate, but X99 may end up being the better option for me if I ever want to do some Virtual Machine work due to Intel disabling the VT-d features on the mainstream CPU's.
X99 is still a good improvement in heat generated and power usage over my X58 so it would still be a good upgrade.
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4790k and 6700k support VT-x and VT-D etc, so no issue there :)
 
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implosiveturnip said:
It's a shame about the pcie lanes on sky lake, I was hoping they'd up the count a little on the highest end skis. I suppose they've no need to really, since Intel have the performance market cornered. Could hope that zen shakes things up, but given the constant let downs of amd as of late, I highly doubt it.

Skylake-e and pascal for me then. Better get saving some pennies!
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They did drastically increase the PCI-E lanes for Z170/Skylake....

Z97 4770k/4790k etc only have a total of 24 PCIE lanes. 16 PCI-E v3 lanes from the CPU and 8 PCI-E V2 lanes from the chipset.

Z170/Skylake has a total of 36 PCI-E V3 lanes - 16 PCI-E v3 lanes for the CPU and 20 PCI-E V3 lanes from the chipset.

I'm assuming you were hoping they'd incase the lanes from the CPU - though remember this would require a massive increase in the number of pins on the socket - 1151 just isn't enough.

Intel want to have two separate platforms - mainstream with a small socket (LGA 115x) and enthusiast (LGA 2011V3). Honestly, the 36 lanes total that Skylake offers (16 from CPU, 30 from chipset) is enough for everyone apart from those using quad crossfire/quad SLI.

Remember that no GPU has ever seen a performance benefit over 1% going from 8x PCI-E v3 lanes to 16x PCI-E v3 lanes - it just isn't needed, yet.
 
Skylake-E will most likely be released in 2017 - that's a long ass wait guys :D

I'm personally going Skylake 6700k, along with 4x8GB DDR4, so that if I decide to go Skylake-E in 2 years, I can reuse my DDR4 in a quad channel setup.
 
Boomstick777 said:
Personally wouldn't do either.

For similar money you could get a 5820K and a X99 Motherboard. Benefit from 50% more CPU i.e 2 extra Cores / Threads + Cache, without crappy TIM.
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Completely depends on the workload of the machine. No point having 2 extra cores if they will never be used etc.

Skylake could/should be faster than Haswell for lightly threaded apps such as games, due to the increased IPC and increased clockspeeds (compared to 5820k).
 
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