Slacker on long term sick

OpenToSuggestions · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:14

He says that in order to be clinically depressed you must have 5 out of 9 (or something like that) from a list.

This list can be found on the internet.

**Bone idle lazy sponging 40 year old till biatch from Asda decides he wants to bunk off a month at work. He google it and goes to the doctors.**

The above is what happens and I really wonder how many people are really genuinely ill.

[Cas] you are missing the point. Stress is a real illness, but most people make it up because the UK laws say it is an illness that gets sick pay.

OP: Your friend is taking the absolute mick and needs getting rid off asap.

Fegruson · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:14

mglover070588 said:
It is attitutes like yours which is making Britain an expensive place to manufacture due to a lazy and skiving workforce.

Mglover for prime minister... :rolleyes:

wannabedamned · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:14

mglover070588 said:
Brother did medicine at Camebridge and he fully agrees with me.
Are you a doctor? I didn't think so.

What's Medicine got to do with Psychology?

This case seems to be a guy being a lazy *******. but Genuine cases like my friend who I mentioned in an earlier post, I'm sure you'd be saying he's just lazy too if you didnt know him. From the outside he probably does just look like a bum who doesnt want to work.

OpenToSuggestions · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:17

wannabedamned said:
What's Medicine got to do with Psychology?

Absolutely everything.
You do medicine then branch off.

A Psychology degree is fancy toilet paper.

wannabedamned · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:20

Ah, I would have thought it was a case of doing psychology and learning the medicines involved in individual treatments.

Or doing Medicine and working pharmaceuticals.

But then, this is all off the top of my head. May aswell be making it up

Caseh · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:21

wannabedamned said:
Ah, I would have thought it was a case of doing psychology and learning the medicines involved in individual treatments.

Or doing Medicine and working pharmaceuticals.

But then, this is all off the top of my head. May aswell be making it up

Like someone else in this thread, apparently.

OpenToSuggestions · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:22

[Cas];16245167 said:
Like someone else in this thread, apparently.

Yea, [Cas]

I have to say that whilst I was a student I worked in many low pay jobs at the working class British attitude to work is absolutely horrifying.

millsy888 · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:23

mglover070588 said:
Absolutely everything.
You do medicine then branch off.

A Psychology degree is fancy toilet paper.

A psychiatrist is a Medical Doctor who specializes in psychiatry

JBuk · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:28

Stress, anxiety and depression affect people in different ways

I too used to mock people who would skip work because of it calling them slackers,etc but I now know from how close family members how some things in life can seriously affect peoples mental state and that these conditions do exist

Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss their state of mind and label them as slackers

Rroff · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:29

mglover070588 said:
Well if he isn't lying in bed all day then he can get is lazy backside into work can't he.

That does sound rediculously black and white, it would be so nice if reality was that simple.

OpenToSuggestions · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:30

Rroff said:
That does sound rediculously black and white, it would be so nice if reality was that simple.

It is a serious condition!

....just most people make it up, so that when someone genuinely has it, everyone calls BS. Just like I would.

JBuk · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:31

mglover070588 said:
It is a serious condition!

....just most people make it up, so that when someone genuinely has it, everyone calls BS. Just like I would.

So you're a sheep then?

millsy888 · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:33

mglover070588 said:
It is a serious condition!

....just most people make it up, so that when someone genuinely has it, everyone calls BS. Just like I would.

Agree with you that people do make it up. I for one don't call BS just because a few lazy people cheat the system. Whatever happened to innocent till proven guilty?

OpenToSuggestions · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:34

JBuk said:
So you're a sheep then?

No, I have just seen (and been told by) many supermarket workers who had 2 weeks of with depression that they did it just to get off night shifts.

millsy888 said:
Whatever happened to innocent till proven guilty?

You cannot disprove stress though

.
Shouldn't it be you are not ill until proven ill?

Stewy · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:36

Wait doctors are also better psychologists than.... psychologists? Hmm who knew...

millsy888 · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:38

mglover070588 said:
No, I have just seen (and been told by) many supermarket workers who had 2 weeks of with depression that they did it just to get off night shifts.

You cannot disprove stress though.
Shouldn't it be you are not ill until proven ill?

I think that's something you will have to take up with the medical profession.

A lot of Doctors these days see people for about 5 mins max, make a diagnosis and carry on with their day.

For the amount of time the guy in the OP has had off work, he really should be seeing a Psychiatrist for his 'problem'.

D.Roberts · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:40

I am all so off sick at the moment but not because of stress tho i probably am hehe.

I have 2 slipped disks and tears in others

my work involves lifting etc so tbh im off as I am only 29 and I can see me being in a wheel chair if I continue.

tbs · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:41

mglover070588 said:
Brother did medicine at Camebridge and he fully agrees with me.
Are you a doctor? I didn't think so.

Thats like saying just because I know the law, I am the law.

Your brother is in medicine, not a Doctor of the human body, he deals with medicine, hes a Pharmacist, doesnt sound like Doctor to me.

Rainmaker · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:42

mglover070588 said:
Absolutely everything.
You do medicine then branch off.

A Psychology degree is fancy toilet paper.

Wow. So what degree of professionalism do you hold in order to make this lofty judgement? Or are you talking for your Cambridge-educated medical doctor brother again? To call psychology fancy toilet paper is more than a little strong, especially given the valid work they do.

semi-pro waster · 27 Mar 2010 at 15:42

mglover070588 said:
You cannot disprove stress though.
Shouldn't it be you are not ill until proven ill?

Well if you can't disprove stress then conversely how do you prove it? I wouldn't quite agree with not ill until proven ill - I'd prefer for people to be trusted until proven unworthy of the trust. For an illness that is difficult to diagnose or with symptoms that are not always distinctive then I think we've got to take the word of the person who claims to have it in the first instance - if we do it the other way round then we risk damaging their health further by possibly unfounded skepticism.

This is not to say that there won't be fakers or people who play the system but such is life, you can't have it all ways.