Smith College "racism" farce - will we see more of this in the UK?

I wonder if woke types keep on pandering to this stuff whether it will become a bit "boy who cried wolf" in years to come - I mean it provokes quite the overreaction at the moment but in the long run will playing the race card over routine incidents mean that actual racism accusations are then diminished too? [..]

Maybe, but I think not and certainly not before it gets far worse. The fashionable authoritarian bigots already have far too much power and they're very skilled at abusing it. I think a more likely scenario is that they will succeed in their goal of creating an authoritarian regime based on their preferred irrational prejudices. They're already at the stage at which they can freely blame their victims with false accusations and face no consequences even if their accusations are proven false, while their victims continue to be presumed guilty and suffer forever for it. That sort of thing doesn't go away easily, let alone reverse. We're nowhere near the peak of it yet. Politically skilled people driven by irrational prejudices can cause a lot of harm when they have power and are unchallengeable. It will get far worse before it gets better. If it does get better. With the vast amount of surveillance made possible by modern technology, there's the possibility of an authoritarian regime remaining in power indefinitely.

I think that sooner or later they'll have to search for a different target group, but they've already laid the groundwork for delaying that as much as possible by making up a target ideology and attaching that to their target biological group identities. So even if they succeeded in enacting the final solution to the white male problem they will still be able to maintain power by blaming white men for a while afterwards. Anyone not wholly obedient can be condemned as being contaminated with white heteropatriarchalism and silenced. Eventually they'll have to go down the racial purity road and start targetting people who aren't "black enough", but that might take a century or more. It's inherent in their ideology, of course. All racist ideologies contain the idea of racial purity. They're already laying the groundwork for targetting people who aren't "black enough" and they are, of course, blaming their victims as usual. The label they're using for that is "colourism".

Maybe it'll swing the other way eventually, but before that we're going to have a society even more racist than early 20th century USA was. Same thing, different race. But even worse. Because that's what these people want.
 
Was this Glasgow Uni by any chance? :p

Nah, can't be - they'd have gone from 14 to 24 :p

Strathclyde Uni, the better Glasgow university, had a brilliant 10 floor Union with six bars in it. They rapidly got rid of them for pack lunch rooms, a canteen no one uses and ‘event space’. Disgusting!

long live TFI & 99p Tuesday.
 
I wonder if woke types keep on pandering to this stuff whether it will become a bit "boy who cried wolf" in years to come - I mean it provokes quite the overreaction at the moment but in the long run will playing the race card over routine incidents mean that actual racism accusations are then diminished too?

tl;dr
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Black Student at an expensive, private liberal arts college decided to eat in some area of the university that was closed off - she was told by one staff member already.
A low level employee/janitor spots her and as per university instructions to not deal directly with incidents like this he calls campus security.
Campus security/police arrive and question her....
She kicks off and the race card gets played. Various low-level university employees get thrown under the bus by the administrations, everyone panders to the privileged student.
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Full article is well worth a read as it shows how far gone some places are thanks to being overly sensitive and pandering to anyone claiming "racism".

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/24/us/smith-college-race.html

"Boy who cried wolf". How dare you say that, you should be saying: "Gender neutral human, or an elf, expresses alarm at a possible encounter with a large canine, or feline, or human who wants to be identified as a canine or feline.

Really, it's the 21st century not the middle ages.

**Stomps off feeling better, having become offended on someone else's behalf.***
 
Another day, another black person pulling out the racist card, nothing new there.

I once had a job of ensuring only mobility impaired people used a lift at a very busy and large event, and the rest used the stairs. I let a few people go past me to use the lift who had walking sticks, who happened to be white, while at the same time a black woman with no mobility impairment tried to sneak round them outside of my view and into the lift.

I stopped her and told her the lift is only for those who cannot use stairs. First thing that came out of her mouth? 'ITS BECAUSE IM BLACK YOU WONT LET ME!!'

Stupid *****. :rolleyes:
 
I find the incessant whining, complaining and general hyperbole surrounding these news articles to be far more offensive than the "incident" being reported.

Thread title asks, "Will we see more of this in the UK?" - Betteridge's Law invoked, nothing to see here.
 
I find the incessant whining, complaining and general hyperbole surrounding these news articles to be far more offensive than the "incident" being reported.

Thread title asks, "Will we see more of this in the UK?" - Betteridge's Law invoked, nothing to see here.

People were saying that about 5 years ago too complaining that anyone highlighting this stuff is just talking about some fringe groups in US colleges, I think you're just sticking your head in the sand at this point. Where is the hyperbole here?
 
People were saying that about 5 years ago too complaining that anyone highlighting this stuff is just talking about some fringe groups in US colleges, I think you're just sticking your head in the sand at this point. Where is the hyperbole here?

I took the time to read your TLDR and to be honest I found your description of employees and fellow human beings as "low level" to be the most distasteful aspect of the sorry paragraph.

I don't care what happened in a canteen, in a foreign country 3 years ago. In keeping with the aforementioned law of headlines, the answer to the thread title is inevitably, "No".

I'm satisfied that I've expressed my opinion and have nothing further to add.
 
I took the time to read your TLDR and to be honest I found your description of employees and fellow human beings as "low level" to be the most distasteful aspect of the sorry paragraph.

What is distasteful about that? That makes no sense to me tbh...

I don't care what happened in a canteen, in a foreign country 3 years ago. In keeping with the aforementioned law of headlines, the answer to the thread title is inevitably, "No".

I'm satisfied that I've expressed my opinion and have nothing further to add.

Like I said you're sticking your head in the sand then... you answer "no" without being able to put forth any argument to support your assertion and instead pick up on some irrelevant semantic thing like referring to the low-level employees (point there being that they're on low income and don't have much power here).
 
Another day, another black person pulling out the racist card, nothing new there.

You always get people taking advantage of situations for personal gain, power or out of vindictiveness, it's why the "always believe the victim" narrative pushed during #metoo and the Brett Kavanaugh trial was so dangerous. Although unsurprisingly it went AWOL when Joe Biden was accused of sexual assault during the election.

Ultimately it's the system, or rather dominant (woke) culture that is allowing this to happen and even encouraging/supporting it, the woke left and big corporations who like to fearmonger about 'far right' fascists constantly have created a climate of fear similar to what you had in Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union and other authoritarian/totalitarian collectivist societies where people were absolutely terrified of being singled out, as individuals. As such in cases like these when there is any form of accusation people are too scared to dismiss or even question the legitimacy of it and have to simply go along with it, for fear of being accused of being apologists for racism and singled out themselves, thus you get people being 'cancelled', sacked from their jobs and ruined on accusations alone. All of this has been cultivated through social media, corporate (news) media and brainwashing courses in the education system and so yes, it will be coming to the UK if the government do not put a stop to it.
 
I find the incessant whining, complaining and general hyperbole surrounding these news articles to be far more offensive than the "incident" being reported.

Thread title asks, "Will we see more of this in the UK?" - Betteridge's Law invoked, nothing to see here.

Really? The janitor was suspended, could have lost his job, for doing his job.

These incidents have real world ramifications.
 
Really? The janitor was suspended, could have lost his job, for doing his job.

These incidents have real world ramifications.

He's more bothered about him being (accurately) referred to in this thread as a "low-level" employee.... I mean what next, don't refer to "middle managers" etc..?

Ironically the problem itself was caused by a similar mentality, the administration of the college didn't care much about their low-level employees here, they were more interested in perceptions, virtue signaling etc...

The people in leadership positions could have exercised some moral courage here and protected the university employees but of course, that would have lead to them perhaps facing "racism" accusations instead and being the targets of misguided student orgs and dodgy reporting.... so instead the low-level employees get thrown under the buss... all very progressive.

ACLU seems to be pretty broken at times these days, this was their take on it last year... essentially just going along with "burn the witch":


Juicy Smollet made it normal, did he even receive any punishment for his lies?

That was especially cringy when the Twitter account for the writers of his TV series openly supported him even after it turned out to be a pack of lies.
 
Full article is well worth a read as it shows how far gone some places are thanks to being overly sensitive and pandering to anyone claiming "racism".

Out of interest what makes you think this is 'woke' pandering/being overly sensitive vs an upper class school not wanting to **** off one of it's rich students? It's no secret that privileged kids get away with all sorts even when they're clearly in the wrong, the full article even has a quote from a janitor echoing this sentiment:

“We used to joke, don’t let a rich student report you, because if you do, you’re gone,” said Mark Patenaude, a janitor.
 
Out of interest what makes you think this is 'woke' pandering/being overly sensitive vs an upper class school not wanting to **** off one of it's rich students? It's no secret that privileged kids get away with all sorts even when they're clearly in the wrong, the full article even has a quote from a janitor echoing this sentiment:

Because the woke aspects were explicitly mentioned/cited, read the rest of the article and look at the consequences for the employees involved here - would the ACLU and/or black students orgs get involved if not for the race angle, would the letters etc.. arrive at the employee's homes etc..

Yes, they're in a precarious positon re: complaints in general, clearly a bit disposable here - but come on, look at the full context.
 
Out of interest what makes you think this is 'woke' pandering/being overly sensitive vs an upper class school not wanting to **** off one of it's rich students? It's no secret that privileged kids get away with all sorts even when they're clearly in the wrong, the full article even has a quote from a janitor echoing this sentiment:

Because someone broke the rules and the claimed that they were being persecuted for a different reason. Very simple.
 
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