Snow Leopard to bring updated UI?

Please please do something with the window management. A maximise button at least! The amount of MSN conversation windows i miss on OSX compared to windows is nuts! :p
 
I just find organising windows in OSX to be a bit of a chore compare to windows. Expose doesn't help because once you've got say 5 windows of the same thing open, you don't notice a 6th popping up. If things open behind other things there is absolutely nothing to tell you they even exist. I've gone for days without noticing a pop-up behind firefox for example!

Oh and they can turn off the mouse acceleration madness. Switching between windows and OSX (literally next to each other) makes OSX feel incredibly sluggish in comparison.
 
Yeah - the mouse acceleration business is dire.

I can do without some Mighty Mouse using idiot in Apple HQ hard-coding what (s)he decrees as best.
 
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£89 thats outrageous! It should be free. Its a pretty small change by the looks of it.

Visually, yes.

Although, they've basically been cleaning up lots of code libraries and chucking in some nice new features e.g. Grand Central and OpenCL so I would hardly say it's a small change. That's like saying Windows 7 is a small change to Vista. Oh, wait...

With higher education discount it comes to £58 ;)
 
£89 thats outrageous! It should be free. Its a pretty small change by the looks of it.

To whom?

You are equating that cost with what it allows you to do directly.

The requirements (which the buyer is paying for) is todo with performance. The application developer then has the choice of offering an option for better performance in their business model.
The end user can then buy the application with the option to stay with their current level of performance or utilise the additional performance from SL (utilising the later hardware to the full).

How much performance vs the cost? Well I'd wait for independent performance tests for your applications.
 
I just find organising windows in OSX to be a bit of a chore compare to windows. Expose doesn't help because once you've got say 5 windows of the same thing open, you don't notice a 6th popping up. If things open behind other things there is absolutely nothing to tell you they even exist. I've gone for days without noticing a pop-up behind firefox for example!

I find that one of the best things about OSX.. the fact that applications can't monopolise the user's focus. It *really* annoys me that every application and it's dog in windows believes that it has the sole right to create a modal dialogue window.
 
Usually £89.



It usually works if you've bought a Mac within a week before the OS release you can get it cheaper, if not it's full retail. £75 - £89.

Meh, was hoping as i'd given them near a thousand of my hard-earned pounds that i'd get a full upgrade to SL free of charge.

I'll wait for reviews before deciding.
 
Usually £89.



It usually works if you've bought a Mac within a week before the OS release you can get it cheaper, if not it's full retail. £75 - £89.

I bought my Mac mini 2 weeks before Leopard, and they offered Leopard to me for £5 (cost of posting)
 
I'd cry into my beer about the loss of Aqua. For me it was one of the things that made Mac OS X so appealing. If they make all the buttons flat and boring, it's going to just look like Windows Classic. Yack, yack and thrice yack.
 
I agree with whoever said OSX really needs refresh or alternative visual theme to Aqua - it's not because it's all round, girly and and candy (although it is) but it just wastes so much space and ergonomics in this day and age:
- Even if they made it slightly more modifiable - simple things, like changing thickness of top bars and size of font, thickness of edges etc - so I have more of my application visible on that sweet tiny screen and less of round, fat, obese gui.

- There is nothing wrong with resizing applications using all four sides in all four directions. It is time to drop the attitude and stop forcing everyone to move whole window, drag opposite corner, move it more, drag corner more. Not all of us are paid per hour.

- Highlighting with shift in Finder. Which imbecile decided that when you highlight 50 files with shift down arrow and then want to go back one file, when you press shift up arrow it actually adds one file on top of screen instead of going back. That is so stupid it should have been patented by Redmond.

- How many years before we get simple "always on top" options. We know it's possible, VLC does it out of the box, in menu, from pure goodness of heart.

- Encouraging development model using windows spawning from windows instead of one single window per application must stop. We have multiple cores now, no one is using their mac to just check their email, or just check their contacts then close applications to watch pretty background. Why not do it in split windows, like the way iTunes does, why not tab, why not wrap all windows into one dedicated gui work space like office for mac or adobe does now, whatever, but stop spawning 20 windows in random screen locations from one stupid Unison entity (as an example).

- And as an extension of above. A proper optional task bar would be handy - if not a dedicated slit sliding out of menu bar, then at least small number next to glowing dock bulb for example, indicating how many windows are open - it's frustrating to find that under twenty layers of final cut and photoshop there is that window belonging to application you clicked and clicked and presumed stoned few days earlier.

Last but not least - can we please agree on basic shortcuts. Really. ctrl-c, cmd-c, ctrl-v, looped square-v, cmd-x - will it, won't it, can it, should it, let you use "cut", all day long, that "@" sign moved over to the top just to screw with office workers. You don't need it. It doesn't help anyone. It has null to do with "Hi, I'm PC" routine. Just let the qwerty people win.
 
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I'd cry into my beer about the loss of Aqua. For me it was one of the things that made Mac OS X so appealing. If they make all the buttons flat and boring, it's going to just look like Windows Classic. Yack, yack and thrice yack.

It's Apple, they aren't going to create a dull OS - it'll be powered by your mind or something.

Rich
 
I know u lot dont care lol but im going to convert my macbook over to arch linux when snow leapord comes out, cba paying £90 for an OS.

I actually find arch/ubuntu/opensuse a lot more user friendly, hate the way OS X hides all my tasks, I want a taskbar god damn it! not some crappy dock.
 
- Encouraging development model using windows spawning from windows instead of one single window per application must stop. We have multiple cores now, no one is using their mac to just check their email, or just check their contacts then close applications to watch pretty background. Why not do it in split windows, like the way iTunes does, why not tab, why not wrap all windows into one dedicated gui work space like office for mac or adobe does now, whatever, but stop spawning 20 windows in random screen locations from one stupid Unison entity (as an example).

There's direct support for multi-document support in OSX/Cocoa.. however the GUI portion of applications is usually on one thread due to OS restrictions.

a lot of apple's background GUI is still based on the the single threaded model. This works to a point but there are cases when I want to use multiple threads to redraw the contents of a window without having to render to a picture and then render that into the window..
 
I can't understand why they went backwards and gave Leopard those drab blue folder icons.

What was wrong with the folder icons in Tiger? :confused:
 
I can't understand why they went backwards and gave Leopard those drab blue folder icons.

What was wrong with the folder icons in Tiger? :confused:
Because they realised that the bubble-gum coloured transparent look was dated and looked gash. Now they need to put their foot down and flush all of it away. Like pin-stripe.
 
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