So, before I dump £160 on an iPod...

I have rockbox on my 4G. It's very good (especially for SQ) but it doesn't half give the batteries a thrashing :(
AFAIK the 5g ipods have better battery life and i think the new ones have better life even still. You could wait for rockbox to support the new ipods as they are also cheaper than the 5g's were. Up to you though, if it weren't for rockbox i would have got a creative, both are excellent.
 
Is there anything else I can help you with, I can answer most Q's about a ZV:M as I own the 30GB model and can answer some Q's on the Zen V Plus as I bought someone one and use it now and then. :)
I don't really need to ask much about specific players at the moment, I just wanted a few suggestions of what's decent competition for the current iPod so I could go off and have a look to see what tempted me :)
 
I don't know much about the new ipods but i recently got one of the 80gb 5g ipods. I think it's great, i don't use itunes as i don't like the way it chooses to sync music etc. I installed rockbox (www.rockbox.org) on the ipod which adds a whole load more features compared to the original apple os. It also allows drag and drop of music files etc.

I would say that with rockbox the ipod is great. With the original os it's acceptable with third party software instead of itunes imo.

Does it replace the firmware completely? is it possible to roll back to the proper Firmware if you don't like it
 
The new Sony NW-A919 looks damn good. Now they've got rid of Sonicstage I can't rule out a walkman comeback ;).

Not big enough really.

chesterstu said:
Does it replace the firmware completely? is it possible to roll back to the proper Firmware if you don't like it

It doesn't replace it at all, you can 'dual boot'

You know there is a MS Zune 2 on the cards ?.

hmm... on the cards doesn't help, I want one now!(ish) :p
 
No, i'm going away with the view that after using iTunes for two years, alongside WinAmp, for different things, that I don't give a ****ing toss about whatever petty stupid argument you lot on here feel the need to have in a thread where I was trying to get some advice on MP3 players.

My advice is that most MP3 players are basically the same but please don't be put off by the rantings of someone slagging IPODS because of a piece of software he dislikes.
All MP3 players sound good with a decent pair of headphones but what impresses me about Apple products is how you can turn the volume up really loud and I like it very LOUD.
All MP3 players sound good through a 2000 watt PA system too.
I apologise that I didn't read that you were familiar with ITunes but the majority of posts on here always have some posters declaring how crap ITunes is and how crap IPODs are and it gets on my ****.
I like my IPODs but I think my next purchase will be going back to ARCHOS which I first had about 7 years ago.
 
The only thing I take exception to there is the comment about Apple players being loud, because my 4G was too quiet until I installed rockbox on it :p
 
BTW, probably the same for all players but on the Creatives for a fact (BY LAW) there is a VOL Limitation in the EU Firmware all to do with the Froggies (French), you simply flash to the US (USA) Firmware and its major loud.
 
Does it replace the firmware completely? is it possible to roll back to the proper Firmware if you don't like it
Very easy to replace/remove/dual boot. You just literally delete the rockbox folder in the root of the ipod. When you dual boot, you just have to switch the hold switch to on once the ipod starts in order for it to load the original os.
 
what do you use?probably only if you use the lineout though?

No.
I have plenty of people handing various MP3 players to me to play something through the PA and I just plug into the headphone socket. A little bit of tweaking on the channel will always get a good sound.

At last the man posts on topic but still gets in a dig at me, very mature at 50yrs too. :p

Why don't you let it lie.
You started it by spouting crap about a decent piece of software that millions around the world get on with and use very easily.
The OP wants facts and spouting rubbish like that could put him off.
(I didn't read that he already used ITunes).
 
You were the one off topic with your 1st 3 post in this thread, the OP even commented he was not wanting/happy with your input and now after getting on topic you still go on and on like a broken down Gramophone.

You really act more like 16 than 50 IMO and this threads is the OP's, not your to dig at me, you feel the need use the addy in my Profile, any more I hit the little red triangle bellow your name. :)
 
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