So do lesbians just need the right man?

spudbynight · 20 Sep 2011 at 14:54

OK - first up this isn't some thread where I want to talk about salacious tittle tattle. This is something I just read that got me thinking.

'Chaz' Bono appeared at the weekend on Dancing With The Starts, the US version of Strictly. I found this piece online just now about his sex change.

What caught me off guard was his fiancee present at his first sex change operation. Now she met Chaz as a lesbian and fell in love. Now, as far as Chaz is concerned, he is a man. Does that mean his fiancee is no longer a lesbian? Does it mean she doesn't view him as a man? It really has scrambled my noodle.

Judgeneo · 20 Sep 2011 at 14:55

*popcorn*

Cosimo · 20 Sep 2011 at 14:56

Judgeneo said:
*popcorn*

Pass it over.

spudbynight · 20 Sep 2011 at 14:57

Before anyone else sticks it in

PermaChanged · 20 Sep 2011 at 15:03

What confuses me is the lesbians who also cross dress, are they attracted to females who look like men or, like the majority of hetrosexual males, attracted to normal looking females?

I've seen so many lesbian couples when both parties are dressed to look like men, what are they attracted to?

Hades · 20 Sep 2011 at 15:03

Mind. Blown.

^^ pass the popcorn down when you're finished. Thx.

Wizzfizz · 20 Sep 2011 at 15:05

spudbynight said:
Before anyone else sticks it in

Touché

spudbynight · 20 Sep 2011 at 15:05

Rusty_Noob said:
What confuses me is the lesbians who also cross dress, are they attracted to females who look like men or, like the majority of hetrosexual males, attracted to normal looking females?

I can get my head around that. I mean if Rule 24 teaches us anything it is that there are all sorts out there.

What puzzles me is the change. I mean his fiancee has effectively gone from gay to straight.

rexehuk · 20 Sep 2011 at 15:05

spudbynight said:
Before anyone else sticks it in

What...

The...

PermaChanged · 20 Sep 2011 at 15:06

spudbynight said:
I can get my head around that. I mean if Rule 24 teaches us anything it is that there are all sorts out there.

What puzzles me is the change. I mean his fiancee has effectively gone from gay to straight.

From what I remember Chaz hasn't had a full sex change operation though, just HRT, style change and a hair cut.

Metalface Mark · 20 Sep 2011 at 15:07

spudbynight said:
OK - first up this isn't some thread where I want to talk about salacious tittle tattle. This is something I just read that got me thinking.

'Chaz' Bono appeared at the weekend on Dancing With The Starts, the US version of Strictly. I found this piece online just now about his sex change.

What caught me off guard was his fiancee present at his first sex change operation. Now she met Chaz as a lesbian and fell in love. Now, as far as Chaz is concerned, he is a man. Does that mean his fiancee is no longer a lesbian? Does it mean she doesn't view him as a man? It really has scrambled my noodle.

Maybe she swung both ways so it didnt really matter? You love the person not the body, I would say a lot of guys like thin girls and thats what they like but they dont dump their wives when she puts on ten stone.

andicole0 · 20 Sep 2011 at 15:07

Try chatting up a lesbian in Fable 3 and see where you get.

Andi.

Kazz · 20 Sep 2011 at 15:08

spudbynight said:
So do lesbians just need the right man?

Uuuh...

spudbynight said:
Before anyone else sticks it in

Please go and see a mental health worker.

Energizer Bunny · 20 Sep 2011 at 15:08

Chaz is hawt

Cosimo · 20 Sep 2011 at 15:09

spudbynight said:
Before anyone else sticks it in

They are before someone does that. Not too sure what they are afterwards.

More popcorn anyone?

spudbynight · 20 Sep 2011 at 15:10

Rusty_Noob said:
From what I remember Chaz hasn't had a full sex change operation though, just HRT, style change and a hair cut.

Have a click o' the link. It shows an interview piece. Yes, he has only had his "top" done so far. However he views himself now as a man and does hope to have a penis at some stage.

The point remains that his fiancee fell in love with another lesbian. Now, the goal posts are changing somewhat.

She now either

(a) Doesn't believe he is actually a man and what sort of basis is that for a long term relationship?

or

(b) Believes he is now a man and that means she is no longer a lesbian????

Spikey Willow · 20 Sep 2011 at 15:10

Quick and dirty answer would be that in this circumstance, 2 women fell in love. The sex change obviously wasn't an issue as they were able to overlook genders.

Does that mean that all lesbians 'just need the right man'? Of course not.

B@Th*nG · 20 Sep 2011 at 15:10

having read the article it looks like its worked out for the guy/girl so fair play to them. he/she is still a woman from the waist down so it's still middle ground really, despite looking like a dude.

B@

RDM · 20 Sep 2011 at 15:11

Maybe sexuality isn't as clear cut as we would like to believe and most of what we consider our sexuality is social conditioning? It is quite possible that they fell in love with the person and the gender doesn't really matter? If sexuality is a scale rather than binary/trinary position then gay and straight don't really exist except at the extreme ends of the scale?

spudbynight · 20 Sep 2011 at 15:11

Metalface Mark said:
Maybe she swung both ways so it didnt really matter? You love the person not the body, I would say a lot of guys like thin girls and thats what they like but they dont dump their wives when she puts on ten stone.

Well, put it another way. How many guys on here would still stay with their wife/girlfriend if they had a sex change and became a man?