The debate wasnt about whether people needed them or not. It was about the fact that you dont ectaully get everything for £150.
So how is the console war going?
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The debate wasnt about whether people needed them or not. It was about the fact that you dont ectaully get everything for £150.
I'd care about the online being free if I was struggling to pay £40 a year to pay for Xbox Live, however that is not the case. The overall Live system is in a much better state than the competition at the moment.
I couldn't give a damn about Home, I don't have any friends who are gonna wanna spend time in a Habbo Hotel-like system, really. Plus you will have to boot into Home I'm guessing so it makes the Home party-like system redundant, why boot into Home first when you could go straight onto Resistance 2 and join a lobby from there?
My 360 now looks more swish than my PS3 (NXE), it's just as quiet and nearly all multiplatform games are better on 360 too. I don't see my PS3 getting much use until Killzone 2.
Sounds useless.
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The debate wasnt about whether people needed them or not. It was about the fact that you dont ectaully get everything for £150.
You get everything you need to play games.
I'd care about the online being free if I was struggling to pay £40 a year to pay for Xbox Live, however that is not the case. The overall Live system is in a much better state than the competition at the moment.
I couldn't give a damn about Home, I don't have any friends who are gonna wanna spend time in a Habbo Hotel-like system, really. Plus you will have to boot into Home I'm guessing so it makes the Home party-like system redundant, why boot into Home first when you could go straight onto Resistance 2 and join a lobby from there?
My 360 now looks more swish than my PS3 (NXE), it's just as quiet and nearly all multiplatform games are better on 360 too. I don't see my PS3 getting much use until Killzone 2.
No offence mate, but the fact that you have had free 360 gaming for 2-3 years, may play into your bias, whether you like to admit it or not
Obviously the fact on one console games are free and on one you have to pay for them makes a huge difference which the price of the hardware and features do not necessarily reflect.
rp2000
That isnt what the poster said though
and if I was feeling really picky I could mention the lack of display equipment 
No offence mate, but the fact that you have had free 360 gaming for 2-3 years, may play into your bias, whether you like to admit it or not
Obviously the fact on one console games are free and on one you have to pay for them makes a huge difference which the price of the hardware and features do not necessarily reflect.
rp2000
Not really, just because I got games on the 360 for free doesn't mean I'm gonna take jabs at the PS3 for not being cracked yet, that would be ridiculous.
I only buy exclusives on the PS3, I don't see how I have any bias because I used to get free games on the 360...doesn't really add up.
I'd care about the online being free if I was struggling to pay £40 a year to pay for Xbox Live, however that is not the case. The overall Live system is in a much better state than the competition at the moment.
I couldn't give a damn about Home, I don't have any friends who are gonna wanna spend time in a Habbo Hotel-like system, really. Plus you will have to boot into Home I'm guessing so it makes the Home party-like system redundant, why boot into Home first when you could go straight onto Resistance 2 and join a lobby from there?
My 360 now looks more swish than my PS3 (NXE), it's just as quiet and nearly all multiplatform games are better on 360 too. I don't see my PS3 getting much use until Killzone 2.
I was just trying to bring some balance, before the thread turned south, but I guess that's not going to be possible
The fact is, despite any additional features NXE and HOME bring to either console, they still have plenty going for them, and you can only say one is a 'notch' above the other for an individual case, like yourself, but that doesn't mean that in general one is better then the other for everyone. Only a fanboy would harp on about how the differences that matter to them are the only things that are important, and you aren't one of those are you?
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I own all 3 and can safely say the 360 is by a country mile the best for playing games on
There aren't anywhere near as many good games on the ps3 / wii and the pad on the 360 is near enough perfect.
I hope Microsoft do really well this xmas as they have not had the success they deserve yet with the 360.
There aren't anywhere near as many good games on the ps3 / wii and the pad on the 360 is near enough perfect.
I hope Microsoft do really well this xmas as they have not had the success they deserve yet with the 360.
Adds up to me. Man who has free console and non free console prefers free console. Fair enough if it does not reflect you.
Live is £40 but games are free
PSN is free but games are £40 EACH.
360 will outsell all this xmas I think. Cheapest "current" console on the market in UK. I can't think of many parents who would be presuaded to pay double for a PS3 regardless of the extra features. The Wii could still grab top spot, but off the top of my head I cannot think of any newish exclusive games that would push it this xmas (although that is not the be all and end all, it helps when selling bundles etc imo).
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I own all 3 and can safely say the 360 is by a country mile the best for playing games on
There aren't anywhere near as many good games on the ps3 / wii and the pad on the 360 is near enough perfect.
I hope Microsoft do really well this xmas as they have not had the success they deserve yet with the 360.
Blimey, I didnt think we had fanboy posts like this anymore LOL.
Of course they both have different things going for them, I prefer using my PS3 for media streaming as it's super quiet when doing that but aside from that the 360 has become my console of choice again with this new update. (well it always has been for multiplayer titles but still)
I really don't care about the price of games, that has nothing to do with me preferring the 360. Even if I didn't have a modded 360 at the time multiplatform games are always going to be 360 choices due to Xbox Live, Achievements and the 360 version is usually better. (of course not a jab against the PS3, just developers)
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Did people ever (or do still) buy consoles or not out of loyalty to a brand? I don't get it.
Cost aside surely its always best to have the best of both worlds? Whether its been SNES v Megadrive, PSX v Saturn or 360 v PS3 they have all had great games.
I've had my favourites in the past but surely the only sensible thing to do is own both.
Cost aside surely its always best to have the best of both worlds? Whether its been SNES v Megadrive, PSX v Saturn or 360 v PS3 they have all had great games.
I've had my favourites in the past but surely the only sensible thing to do is own both.
You would think that, but in practice not everyone can afford all consoles!!!!
(Unless you are buying)You would be surprised how much brand loyalty plays a part (or maybe not surprised). There are loads of people who have sworn blind not to buy MS/Sony/Nintendo products based on current or past console ownership etc.
Some can't afford to own all and some are blinded by anger/hatred/loyalty/ past bad experiences. This probably makes up 50% of ppl on this forum. The other 50% don't play games as much or don't care as much (as they only own 1 console they don't have much to compare to?)
rp2000
Yep they do, look at all the people who got PS3's when the 360 was already out. (with a superior line up)
Of course quite a lot would have wanted a Blu-Ray player too.
Brand doesn't really mean anything when your lineup isn't as good as the competition, you're only denying yourself.
I personally always knew I was gonna end up having a PS3 and a 360, I was put off the Wii as I once bought a Gamecube and played it for about 2 weeks and then it was put under my bed for a year or so. Always thought Nintendo were overrated yet I still bought a Wii and what a huge mistake that was.
You would think that, but in practice not everyone can afford all consoles!!!!
You would be surprised how much brand loyalty plays a part (or maybe not surprised). There are loads of people who have sworn blind not to buy MS/Sony/Nintendo products based on current or past console ownership etc.
Some can't afford to own all and some are blinded by anger/hatred/loyalty/ past bad experiences. This probably makes up 50% of ppl on this forum. The other 50% don't play games as much or don't care as much (as they only own 1 console they don't have much to compare to?)
rp2000
Cost I can understand.
I always assumed bitter Megadrive or SNES owners secretly owned the other otherwise its cutting off your nose to spite your face.
I originally bought the PS3 purely to feed by new Full HD Samsung via HDMI. This is my first games console (apart from Amiga CD32). I now play all my games on the PS3 and my 2k+ top end PC is now used just for surfing / printing & DVD burning LOL !!. So, my choice wasnt down to loyalty or past experiences at all it was simply down to functionality & aesthetics.
My purchase choice was based heavily on brand loyalty. Games like God of War 1 + 2, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Gran Turismo, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Wipeout and many more are all games that i've loved over the years. I can only afford one of the 'main' consoles at present, so my purchasing decision was based heavily on what i knew would produce games i liked.
The PS3 has a much better range of exclusive IPs than the 360 for ME (some as mentioned above). The console offers more in terms of features that I require, such as wireless out the box, Blu-ray, HD decoders, plus that list I posted a while back but I aint gonna bring that up. So its obvious imo which console gets used more/prefered! I prefer the 360s online service and enjoy some cheap older games, but thats it. So it works either way, saying one console is better than another is stupid as not everyone is the same! I cant even slate the Wii tbh as thats used probably the most with Mario Kart ! and House of the Dead.
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As its grown -ups/parents that are the likely buyers it really depends on what they "know" and want
After a choice of five games (lets say, and probably less) will parents care that much how many more games there are - I doubt it somehow. Last xmas there was a distinct lack of choice for the PS3, but its a lot less clear cut now, and even less so with 5* games
It may also come down to what the adults want or dont want - some MAY be swayed into a family PS3 as apposed to an X360 in the kid's bedroom (from the cost point of view)
Im also not convinced people en masse will use the free ms games on live as a reason ("no such thing as a free lunch") - and whether NXE is good enough to persuade people to buy.....
Im also positive a lot of parents will buy basic X360's and a game or two, not realising some of the "necessary" extras will be required
who knows - maybe mobile phone's popularity will go thru the roof with the promise of the free ps3's lol (only kidding)
edit - it may count for nothing at all, but also consider the packaging - maybe its changed since I last saw it but the X360 used to just have basically a white and green box with games being the only thing in big advertising on it (nothing wrong with this per se) , Im not commenting on the premium bundles as most are highlighting the £150 price of basic models
however condiser the ps3 which advertises games, movies and music, and all round entertainment (and even if it doesnt really highlight the last two if dont look closely, the Sony brand without question does do this) MS are singularly a computer brand without a CD Label, without a movie studio or audio/video electronics - I know this is nothing new, but it MAY sway some buyers decisions
After a choice of five games (lets say, and probably less) will parents care that much how many more games there are - I doubt it somehow. Last xmas there was a distinct lack of choice for the PS3, but its a lot less clear cut now, and even less so with 5* games
It may also come down to what the adults want or dont want - some MAY be swayed into a family PS3 as apposed to an X360 in the kid's bedroom (from the cost point of view)
Im also not convinced people en masse will use the free ms games on live as a reason ("no such thing as a free lunch") - and whether NXE is good enough to persuade people to buy.....
Im also positive a lot of parents will buy basic X360's and a game or two, not realising some of the "necessary" extras will be required
who knows - maybe mobile phone's popularity will go thru the roof with the promise of the free ps3's lol (only kidding)
edit - it may count for nothing at all, but also consider the packaging - maybe its changed since I last saw it but the X360 used to just have basically a white and green box with games being the only thing in big advertising on it (nothing wrong with this per se) , Im not commenting on the premium bundles as most are highlighting the £150 price of basic models
however condiser the ps3 which advertises games, movies and music, and all round entertainment (and even if it doesnt really highlight the last two if dont look closely, the Sony brand without question does do this) MS are singularly a computer brand without a CD Label, without a movie studio or audio/video electronics - I know this is nothing new, but it MAY sway some buyers decisions
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