So interesting year for TVs... LG OLED, Panasonic OLED, Sony OLED? and Samsung QLED!

NeilF · 4 Jan 2017 at 16:24

I'm planning on replacing my old Panasonic Plasma 46"GT30... So the latter half of this year will be interesting

VincentHanna · 4 Jan 2017 at 16:26

All the OLED panels are manufactured by LG though.

Sony and Panasonic are just going to have deals in place with LG.

QLED sounds like Samsung trying to muddy the waters.

NeilF · 4 Jan 2017 at 16:28

VincentHanna said:
All the OLED panels are manufactured by LG though.

Sony and Panasonic are just going to have deals in place with LG.

Really? I guess image processing may differ though...

VincentHanna said:
QLED sounds like Samsung trying to muddy the waters.

Possibly.. But it may prove cheaper/comparible in quality, or even better in some areas... Should be interesting...

Steedie · 4 Jan 2017 at 16:38

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style...017-Samsung-4K-TV-QLED-TV-launch-announcement

NeilF · 4 Jan 2017 at 16:49

Steedie said:
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style...017-Samsung-4K-TV-QLED-TV-launch-announcement

Guess we won't know until reviews compare them to OLEDs...

MatsyLR · 4 Jan 2017 at 18:05

Get 55inch OLED under £1k please.

Bobmunkhouse · 4 Jan 2017 at 18:24

I want someone other then LG to start making panels so hopefully we get slightly smaller size and lower price...

Doogles · 4 Jan 2017 at 18:27

MatsyLR said:
Get 55inch OLED under £1k please.

Make that 60" and I'm in! I'd consider 80" but I only have room for a 150cm desk as it is with a 60" on the wall :mad:

NeilF · 4 Jan 2017 at 18:33

Bobmunkhouse said:
I want someone other then LG to start making panels so hopefully we get slightly smaller size and lower price...

Yeh... 50" would be nice!

I'm questioning if 55" is going to be overwhelming in the lounge TBH!

D3K · 4 Jan 2017 at 18:38

The OLED W isn't really something that interests me. Thinner TVs are unnecessary unless they can roll up and be stuck in my backpocket.

Looking forward to the price reductions on the 2016 range. Is it likely they will get WebOS 3.5? Should do if it's not a full revision.

pioneer2000 · 4 Jan 2017 at 18:39

I don't get the love for OLED here, they can't even do proper HDR because the brightness is so low compared to the high end LED's / QLED's.

QLED sounds great, will keep an eye out come March for sure.

NeilF · 4 Jan 2017 at 18:42

D3K said:
Looking forward to the price reductions on the 2016 range.

Yeh... If the LG OLED55E6 drops a lot in price

NeilF · 4 Jan 2017 at 18:42

pioneer2000 said:
I don't get the love for OLED here, they can't even do proper HDR because the brightness is so low.

I suspect some OLED owners might disagree with that!?

Warbie · 4 Jan 2017 at 18:46

pioneer2000 said:
I don't get the love for OLED here, they can't even do proper HDR because the brightness is so low compared to the high end LED's / QLED's.

QLED sounds great, will keep an eye out come March for sure.

Depends on your priorities. I've been waiting for CRT level blacks ever since I sold my much loved 32" HD CRT and Sony FW900. None of the subsequent plasmas came close to reproducing that level of three dimensionality and certainly none of the LCDs. Fore the vast majority of content out there - including HDR movies - you'll get a punchier, more impressive picture with an OLED. Of course, there's cherry picked scenes that look better on a brighter LED panel.

VincentHanna · 4 Jan 2017 at 19:35

pioneer2000 said:
I don't get the love for OLED here, they can't even do proper HDR because the brightness is so low compared to the high end LED's / QLED's.

QLED sounds great, will keep an eye out come March for sure.

http://uk.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-features/hdr/best

pioneer2000 · 4 Jan 2017 at 20:21

HDR specs are over 1000nits of brightness though? Which the OLED's arent anywhere near... ergo, they aren't reproducing proper HDR, unlike the equivalent LED sets.

VincentHanna · 4 Jan 2017 at 20:42

pioneer2000 said:
HDR specs are over 1000nits of brightness though? Which the OLED's arent anywhere near... ergo, they aren't reproducing proper HDR, unlike the equivalent LED sets.

http://www.whathifi.com/advice/ultra-hd-premium-what-are-specs-which-tvs-support-it

First and foremost, content (4K Blu-ray discs, say) and devices (4K TVs/4K Blu-ray players) must meet or exceed a 4K resolution (3840 x 2160), and support 10-bit colour depth, BT.2020 colour space representation and HDR.

TVs must also be capable of producing more than 90 per cent of the DCI P3 color standard and meet a certain brightness level (measured in nits). 4K TVs must have either a 1000-nit peak brightness and less than 0.05 nits black level (to cater for the high brightness of LCD TVs), or a 540-nit peak brightness and less than 0.0005 nits black level (to include the generally dimmer, yet stonking black depth, of OLEDs).

MG42Maniac · 4 Jan 2017 at 20:51

pioneer2000 said:
HDR specs are over 1000nits of brightness though? Which the OLED's arent anywhere near... ergo, they aren't reproducing proper HDR, unlike the equivalent LED sets.

HDR is about the range of colours, not just peak brightness. Once you take the HDR1000 TVs off of eye melting demo mode and stick an actual movie on you will see the OLED is much better. Uncharted 4 HDR is simply gorgeous on an OLED, not seen a console game come close to it.

pioneer2000 · 4 Jan 2017 at 23:32

VincentHanna said:
http://www.whathifi.com/advice/ultra-hd-premium-what-are-specs-which-tvs-support-it

First and foremost, content (4K Blu-ray discs, say) and devices (4K TVs/4K Blu-ray players) must meet or exceed a 4K resolution (3840 x 2160), and support 10-bit colour depth, BT.2020 colour space representation and HDR.

TVs must also be capable of producing more than 90 per cent of the DCI P3 color standard and meet a certain brightness level (measured in nits). 4K TVs must have either a 1000-nit peak brightness and less than 0.05 nits black level (to cater for the high brightness of LCD TVs), or a 540-nit peak brightness and less than 0.0005 nits black level (to include the generally dimmer, yet stonking black depth, of OLEDs).

Hmm, well seems odd that Panasonic have announced the "first HDR compliant" OLED set with a 800nits peak brightness at CES. Marketing spiel a bit misleading perhaps!

Just read that OLED sets lose approx half their brightness after 5 years also? They seem to have all of the major shortcomings that plasma did... i.e. Image retention, low brightness, degradation over time.

HungryHippos · 5 Jan 2017 at 00:27

pioneer2000 said:
Hmm, well seems odd that Panasonic have announced the "first HDR compliant" OLED set with a 800nits peak brightness at CES. Marketing spiel a bit misleading perhaps!

Just read that OLED sets lose approx half their brightness after 5 years also? They seem to have all of the major shortcomings that plasma did... i.e. Image retention, low brightness, degradation over time.

My understanding was that with the 2016 range, the "half-life" of the set was longer, more like 10-15 years. Maybe the stats you saw were for the earlier versions/years?