I bought a £500 i5 dual core laptop in 2017!
I don’t know though tbh I know my father bought a dual core MacBook and dual core four thread is probably fine for most uses, but I don’t have figures to hand.
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So now that all the new Ryzens are here how many cores do we actually need in 2020?
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I don’t know though tbh I know my father bought a dual core MacBook and dual core four thread is probably fine for most uses, but I don’t have figures to hand.
Interesting!
Steam users aren't everybody of course, but realistically pretty much anybody with a gaming PC is going to have Steam installed. The uptick in hexa-core ownership since July is quite remarkable. Almost 4.5% of the user base has moved to six cores in the past six months (nearly the same amount of people total who own an octa-core). Guess those 3600s are selling well...
Does also show that 75% of people are on 2-4 cores!
You just have to look at the most played games on steam by user count to see why.
Games like
PUBG
Counter Strike GO
Dota
LoL
Team Fortress 2
Path of the Exile
Grand theft auto V
that's why - these low tier and old ass games run perfectly fine on 2 to 4 cores and that's what the majority of steam users are playing.
mid you only include recent big titles, the number of current users is small.
it means that the people who play AAA games are the ones with more modern hardware, the ones who play old games have old hardware and they are the majority on steam.
I Have friends that have never heard of some of these games that's how old they are. The people playing some of these have been doing so for a long time - they probably won't upgrade until something in their PC dies
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This graph shows intel is slowly losing it very high market share to AMD
Steam users aren't everybody of course, but realistically pretty much anybody with a gaming PC is going to have Steam installed. The uptick in hexa-core ownership since July is quite remarkable. Almost 4.5% of the user base has moved to six cores in the past six months (nearly the same amount of people total who own an octa-core). Guess those 3600s are selling well...
Most retailers are reporting 80 to 90% of their cpu sales going to AMD.
the steam market share moves slowly for a number of reasons.
One is that it only updates once per year per account - so let's say yesterday steam look a survey of your pc and then today you put a 3900X in it. Only up to 12 months later will your 3900X be counted in the AMD steam numbers
the steam market share moves slowly for a number of reasons.
One is that it only updates once per year per account - so let's say yesterday steam look a survey of your pc and then today you put a 3900X in it. Only up to 12 months later will your 3900X be counted in the AMD steam numbers
Very slowly indeed. But I suppose it will take a few years to start seeing a decent change. As someone from a wealthy city from the west even I only recently upgraded from my 4770K so it will take a long time until the rest of the world start upgrading. To be honest if it was not for the sheer amount of security issues Intel CPU have, I may have even hanged on for 2 more years until AMD5 came along at m,y 4770K was at 4.7GHz and was fast enough for my needs.This graph shows intel is slowly losing it very high market share to AMD
Saying that through I am very happy to have upgraded
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I went 8 cores back in 2012, probably too early but I dont just game on the PC. In apps that could benefit it was a no-brainer in productivity. Regarding the steam observation it is probably slow to process the users changing system but I cant see it always being a yearly statistical thing. I recently got the Ryzen 3600 and its definitely the place to be (minimum spec) going into 2020. All these folks with dual or quad cores are not going to hang about much longer and the hardware wont cut it considering modern titles and shift to Win 10.
Steam will soon show massive uptake of Ryzens Im sure of it.
Steam will soon show massive uptake of Ryzens Im sure of it.
Most people no need a high end CPU as most of them are only using a 1050ti or 1060 GPU
very few people have a mid range or high end GPU
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Most people no need a high end CPU as most of them are only using a 1050ti or 1060 GPU
Depends on what your measuring here. I dont consider a 3600 to be a high end CPU though..
The largest audience will be at 1080p and likewise as you stated you wont need a mid/high end GPU for that. My angle would refer to titles like RDR2 being on Steam now and some of the other demanding releases. If your logging on to play Champ Man 2010 then its not sticking to the thread's Title imo.
Looks like more than 50% have quad cores, with approx a quarter of players 6 Cores or above.
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PS5/Xbox Series X impact? Regardless I would rather just buy a 3900X.
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It'll be basically the same raw 8 core/16 thread performance but with 4 cores and 8 threads left to do background tasks like Windows. It's probably the best bet overall.
I doubt that will be the case. I can see the extra cores drive some better AI or perhaps physics. 4 cores and 8 threads seems overkill for background tasks on a console imho.
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My point was merely a suggestion in regards to what CPU newcomers should buy, probably eight core will be sensible.
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I was talking about more for making sure your PC is comparable and able to play ports.
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Cell in the PS3 was full of untapped potential. Seems like they had it figured out back in 2001ish.
Ahh it's good to see the 7 in there with a massive 0.77% of the market. One thing I have also noticed re steam hardware is that my laptop (Intel Kabylake G) seems to ask me several times a year to do the survey whereas my desktop (Threadripper) has never once asked me since I built it a few years ago.
It'll be interesting to see what they do with the CPU on the next gen of consoles. As with everything else in this sector I'm sure they will stick the biggest numbers they can in just so that they can say they have big numbers, but if they will actually use that is yet to be seen.
With the last gen they had to do a lot of fiddling to get everything they could out of the relatively under powered jaguar cores. I wouldn't be surprised if they just don't bother putting the same amount of work in and just trust the Zen cores to be able to handle it, and we don't actually see that much better CPU level performance and the gains will be felt on the developer end with them not having to sink anywhere near the same amount of time and effort into getting the games optimized.
With the last gen they had to do a lot of fiddling to get everything they could out of the relatively under powered jaguar cores. I wouldn't be surprised if they just don't bother putting the same amount of work in and just trust the Zen cores to be able to handle it, and we don't actually see that much better CPU level performance and the gains will be felt on the developer end with them not having to sink anywhere near the same amount of time and effort into getting the games optimized.
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