So, PlayStation+, who's in?

It's scandalous that this is something they expect you to pay for. Everytime my girl asks to play LBP we're confronted by a big patch and it's a right pain.

I know, we will be paying for P2P services next.

Personally, I think I may wait a little on PSN+. If the free games are ones I really want I may consider but am really waiting on cross game chat.
 
It's scandalous that this is something they expect you to pay for. Everytime my girl asks to play LBP we're confronted by a big patch and it's a right pain.

Didn't you just get your PS3 a little while ago? I think there has only been 3 patches this year (2010) and each one has been below 20mb. I suppose that is big if you have slow broadband :)


Can't see myself getting a PSN subscription, unless someone wants to buy me one :). As mentioned before, I would only really get it for the free PSN games and discounts on PSN stuff. Minis and PS1 classics don't interest me much and I still have a sneaky feeling that 1 month you will get good games, then for 2 months you will get crap games. Downloading patches/updates is never that big an issue for me, I have fast broadband with no caps and a smidgen of patience.


rp2000
 
Didn't you just get your PS3 a little while ago? I think there has only been 3 patches this year (2010) and each one has been below 20mb. I suppose that is big if you have slow broadband :)

Heh, I did only get it 4 months or so ago and I do have slow broadband (live in a little village). Admittedly I only play it about once a month and I do think the patches are downloading much faster than when I got it but it's still a pain when we only have 30 mins to play.
 
Heh, I did only get it 4 months or so ago and I do have slow broadband (live in a little village). Admittedly I only play it about once a month and I do think the patches are downloading much faster than when I got it but it's still a pain when we only have 30 mins to play.

Ah, if you have slow broadband, I can imagine it can be a pain. I always find game patches max out my ADSL connection, but sometimes the firmware updates do not. I would avoid your PS3 tomorrow then as there is an update coming out (I think) and it will probably by slow for you. :D


rp2000
 
Heh, I did only get it 4 months or so ago and I do have slow broadband (live in a little village). Admittedly I only play it about once a month and I do think the patches are downloading much faster than when I got it but it's still a pain when we only have 30 mins to play.
With game updates you can often just cancel them at the prompt and it'll let you play on without the update.
 
Really? :confused: I've never noticed that... what about MP updates? I would think those would be mandatory.
It varies from game to game, I'm pretty sure most let you skip the update, but it'll hassle you every time you boot the game until you do.
Anything involving online MP will be mandatory though.
 
More info about PSN+
Ok, here are the basics of the new premium subscription service, PlayStation Plus:

* Launching on the 29th June
* The current PSN features will remain free. We are still very committed to PSN as a free gaming service and are certainly not planning on reducing this service following the launch of PlayStation Plus.
* Plus is an evolving service and the features included at launch will be:
o Games
o Discounts
o Exclusive items on PlayStation Store
o Full Game Trial
o Automatic Downloads
(More info on these below)
* Membership to Plus can be purchased through PlayStation Store on PS3 for either 90 days or a whole year (365 days)
* Local prices for membership can be found below, payment is a one off fee for either of the memberships and can be purchased with any of the current Store payment methods – Credit Card or PSN Cards
* If you sign up between the 29th June and 3rd Aug for the 1 year subscription then you will also receive a downloadable copy of the original LittleBigPlanet game for PS3, completely free! This is yours to keep and is not tied to the period of subscription

Here are the features in more detail –

Games & Special Offers: As a member you can expect to get your hands on at least 4 games a month at no extra charge. Each month there will be a selection of 1x PSN game, 2x minis and 1x PS One classics. A list of the games available in month 1 and 2 can be found below. You will be able to download these games during the month they are available, until the new selection replaces these.

Once downloaded, these games are yours to keep and play as long as you are a member of PlayStation Plus. If your subscription lapses and then you re-subscribe the games you have already downloaded will reactivate, so you still have access to them. Additionally, if you delete one of these titles from your PS3 but decide you want to get it back then you can re-download from the Plus section of the Store if the games is still there, or, if the game has expired from the Plus section of the Store, then you can simply search for it on the Store and download it again at no extra cost.

Each month there will be 2 dynamic themes, 2 premium avatars and premium game elements/add-ons for you to download and many of these will be exclusive to members only. These are yours to keep forever once you have downloaded them.

Plus members will also be given exclusive PlayStation Store discounts each month that are above and beyond the current Store discounts available to everyone. These discounts will range from 20% – 50% and anything you buy with these is yours to keep and enjoy forever.

Finally, wherever possible we’ll be making sure that members are included in some selected demos and beta trials early, before they go live to everyone, so you can be the one to tell all your mates about the next big game they ‘must’ get.

As I mentioned, just the games themes and avatars are worth over £200* a year and with unrestricted access to 48+ games each year and all the other features, we think this service is great value for money.

Full Game Trial: Each month we will be offering members the chance to download 2 full games, try them out for a period of time (1 hour unless otherwise stated). Then you will have the choice to either buy the game and carry on from where you left off, or delete the game from your hard drive. This is a unique way to trial the full game experience and means you don’t have to be restricted to certain levels/game modes when you test out a game.

The games in full game trail will become available to all Store users to purchase but only Plus members will have the chance to ‘try before you buy’.

The other great thing about this feature is that you can continue from where you were at the end of the trial period if you decide to buy the game. All game saves and trophies earned during the trial will be unlocked and will show up on your trophy list and your trophy level, when you purchase the game. You don’t even have to re-download the game, just purchase and go back to the XMB to access the game.

Automatic Download: Members will be able to set their PS3 to wake up from standby at any time of the day or night, download and install any game updates for the games you have been playing and we will also send you new game demos that will be ready and waiting for you to play when you next use your PS3. System software updates will also download automatically (manual install still required) and then the PS3 will turn itself off again.

Game updates and demos will also automatically install and the next time you turn on your PS3 you will see a brief on screen message letting you know what has been downloaded and updated.

Some other answers to frequently asked questions from the last blog post -

* Cross-game chat is not currently included in PlayStation Plus.
* You need to be the master account holder on the PS3 and be over 18 to purchase a Plus membership but other accounts on that PS3 will be able to play the games you download for as long as you are a member.
* The 4 games you can download each month are yours to keep for as long as you are a member.
* Playstation Plus is for PS3 owners as membership can only be purchased on the PS3 Store. However, some of the content – minis and PSOne Classics – available each month will also be playable on your PSP if you have one. Download them on the PS3 and transfer to your PSP, or download directly from the PSP Store or Media Go for PSP.

PlayStation Plus is an evolving service and we have taken on board all your comments from the previous blog post. We will be looking into these and we also welcome any other suggestions you have.

Thanks,
James

* Approximate value based on average RRP of available content in a one year subscription, excluding discounts, calculated using exchange rates as at May 2010. Actual value may vary. Access to some content, excluding discounted content, terminates at the end of the subscription period.

And info about the "freebies"
Hi, this will also be on playstationplus.com very soon –

Month 1: June 29th – August 3rd
Intro offer: LBP (standard edition)
PSN PS3: Wipeout HD
minis: Field Runners, Age of Zombies
PSone: Destruction Derby
Full Game Trial: Shatter, Savage Moon
Discounts: LBP God of War Pack – 50%, LBP: LocoRoco costume pack – 50%, mavity Crash – 20%, Fat Princess DLC – 20%

Premium Game Element: KillZone 2: Steel & Titanium DLC
Push demo: ModNation Racers, Heavy Rain
Dynamic Themes: LBP Theme, SCEE produced: PlayStation “Game Is Just The Start” Dynamic Theme
2 x Fat Princess Premium Avatars

Month 2: August 4th – September 1st

PSN PS3: Zen Pinball
minis: Blast-Off, Alien Zombie Death
PSone: Medievil
Full Game Trial: inFamous, Mushroom Wars
Discounts: Zen Pinball Earth Defence Table – 20%, Warhawk Triple Combo Pack – 50%, Super Stardust HD – 20%, WipeOutHD Fury – 20%

Premium Game Elements: Motorstorm Pacific Rift: Adrenaline Pack
Push Demo: Flower, Pixel Junk Shooter
Themes: “SCEE produced: PlayStation Plus Dynamic Theme, Heavy Rain Crime Scene Theme
2 x Heavy Rain Avatars (Bird and Butterfly)

And,
Hi Seany1, there will be a Plus icon next to your PSN ID on the friends list
 
A bit lacklustre as many of us are sure to have already own some of these games.

If the European PSN library was as big as the Japanese and U.S regions, or like the XBLA, then there would have been plenty of games content in rotation.

Hopefully the money that comes from PSN+ subscribers can be put into good use to get more decent games on the PSN. There are loads of stuff from XBLA that I would love to see on the Sony end. (Rez HD and Ikaruga please!)
 
Wonder how often these discounts will come about, If I ended up getting a PSPGo in the future a psn discount would be greatly welcomed.
 
Oh so you get to keep the games forever rather than just for the 1 month. Wouldn't take long to build up a half decent list of games that don't need a disc.
 
Very tempted, especially with LBP on there which I've been meaning to pick up for ages. Get a couple of cheap £20 PSN cards online and reduce the annual cost a bit, and you're sorted.
 
Oh so you get to keep the games forever rather than just for the 1 month. Wouldn't take long to build up a half decent list of games that don't need a disc.

You keep (or rather can play) the games (1 PS3/PSN game, 1 PSone Classic, 2 Minis, all per month) as long as you are subscribed to PSN+. Once your subscription expires they become "disabled" (presumably using DRM) until you resubscribe.

However, you have to download the content the month it is free, after which (presumably) it disappears from the "free" section of the PS+ store.

The free Premium Avatars and the Free DLC and the discounted content is yours to keep forever.


On the surface, the content for months 1 & 2 look good, if you are new to a PS3.
If you are a big user of PSN/PS3 then for months 1&2 you will find:

a) You already have the free PSN/PS3 game (which is the most expensive freebie each month) (I am ignoring the PSone and Mini games as no-one in their right mind would subscribe for those!! :) )
b) You will already have the (full) games they are pushing you the demos for.
c) You will already have the DLC they give you free
d) The free full game 1 hour trial (Shatter and inFamous) will be priced very high compared to the retail prices (especially as they are 1 year old games).


rp2000
 
I'm interested to hear what other retail titles will get the one hour trial treatment as the blog post suggests non-subscribers will also be able to buy the digital versions.... would expect to see Burnout as a trial shortly as it's already on the store.
 
This probs won't be worth it for us people who use psn store a lot, for a good few months. until they have run out of the old stuff to shift onto us. Will see how it goes :).

If in one month they offer something I'm actually wanting to buy.. I think id be likely to just get psn+ :)
 
Got all the PSN games on the list already, have fast broadband so patching isn't a problem, don't use voice chat and never bothered with themes so it's a wait and see for me.
 
what's all this about?

Can someone explain, does this mean the ps3 and games are going to stop updating on their own and i have to do it manually now?


(mainly use ps3 for media now anyway).

Also If i already own wipeout hd they aren't going to demand i pay to play it and other games on-line now?
 
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