So the Dell 2007WFP then ¬_¬

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Sorry, the thread is a bit late, I've been occupied with this thing..and also missing £302 from my wallet :O

The moment you pick up the stand you know it's got quality - heavy, sturdy...and my dad standing by the doorway oogling (I later saw him adjusting the colour on his Samsung 940BW hehe).

Anyway, I'll keep this brief but detailed, I think the pics do the rest of the talking :) - Any questions or requests just ask :-D

Addition*
The panel Dell sent me is an S-IPS Rev A02

Build Quality
I have to say this is superb, compared to my 2 previous TFT screens and the Samsung 940BW downstairs as well as the Sony TFT in the playroom this is very nicely built, my dads old Dell PC has a 15" Dell TFT which had similar build qualities too - Dell wins here.

OSD
The OSD is nice, I got to grips with it very quickly, it provides a fair amount of control from colour to PiP sources and whatnot. Lots to sift through. It's also movable and transparent so looks nice and does not distract.

Default Brightness / Colour
This is where I was most surprised, the default brightness is at 50, there is no contrast setting when using DVI and the colour mode (once reset) was at "PC Normal" - I found these settings to be instantly usable and photos were immediately more "real" compared to the other screens I have seen the same photos on. The screen is bright yet not too bright, details are clear and using windows in general is neutral and easy on the eyes - it reminds me allot of my friends NEC 20WGX2 except minus the opticlear coating.

I used only the desktop profile mode in the OSD as I am not a fan of "special" modes.

Performance
I briefly fired up some trailers and the BBC HD-Showreel was just ...wow... I also played the new Casino Royale trailer windowed and full screen - again no bad things here.

Viewing angles were also very good, if you look at it form a above diagonal angle there is some colour shift, well not like TN panels but hard to describe, can I call it the "IPS effect" ? hehe. I doubt anyone watches movies diagonally anyway so it's a non issue this :)

One thing during video playback to note though, the IPS panel "twinkling" is noticeable if you look for it, otherwise you are too busy enjoying what you are watching.

I also played some HL2 and was equally impressed, blacks were black and dark areas were very dark (Ravenholm for example) just how they should be but not so dark that you can't see anything!

Pixel Mapping / Aspect ratios
This worked perfectly, you do have to set it each time you load a low res game though but I don't play anything below native res so it's not an issue.

Picture in Picture
I hooked up my DV camcorder to the Composite in socket to see what the quality was like and to test out PiP - Composite is ass quality compared to svideo but it showed PiP works well and just as you'd expect.

Backlight Bleed
There is no visible backlight bleeding, the screen seems to be uniform throughout, perhaps the lower right area is a "little" darker than the rest of the screen space but you won't notice it unless you look for it.

Finally
PICS!
 
nice.

i have a question... do u gain any productivity from a 20" widescreen over a 15" 4:3 in terms of using general office apps (eg. IE, word, excel etc)? The vertical height on a 20" widescreen looks pretty similar to that on a 15" when i use tvcalculator.com. So i was thinking perhaps it would be better for office work to go for the 2007fp rather than the 2007fpw as i cant imagine that the small increase in width is enough to be able to get two windows side by side?... i just want to buy one to tide me over until i can get a benq fp241w.
 
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You can have 2x A4 pages side by side on a 20" widescreen easily but a 4:3 one not so easy, the extra wide angle makes up for the slightly smaller vertical res imo :)
 
mrk said:
You can have 2x A4 pages side by side on a 20" widescreen easily but a 4:3 one not so easy, the extra wide angle makes up for the slightly smaller vertical res imo :)

cheers, i changed my post like 4 times... it just didnt make sense :)

2x A4 pages huh? well that sounds better... it just doesnt look like it is big enough from any pictures i have seen of the 2007fpw
 
When you are sat in front of it playing a game or watching a movie it is big :) in fact even browsing the net it's big, these forums for example , maximise the window and you could easily get lost in the vast widerness (kek!)

As for ghosting, absolutely none at all. I beleive I read somewhere that Dell have always been modest in their response time figures andthis dell performs the same/better than the response of my previous 5ms Hyundai widescreen and my dads 6ms Samsung 940BW.

I love it :D


this is now my most prized posession.
 
that looks reeeeaaaaallllllly nice! im tempted to buy one!

any chance you would be able to take a picture of the back panel where the inputs are, please :)? its just im not to sure whats there lol.
 
Spudgun said:
Are there any issues of ghosting as this is a 16ms screen?

The majority of Dell panels are now using the faster Philips 8ms panel.
The reason the Dell website states 16ms is that the early revisions did indeed use the older 16ms panel (which still is a great performing piece of kit I may add).
This was mainly due to a delay in the 8ms panels becomming available.

However, because there are some Dell panels out there with the 16ms panel Dell are basically covering their backsides by quoting the highest figure you could expect.
If your panel then turns up with an 8ms response rate you're hardly going to complain are you :)
The 2007WFP really is a nice panel - I had a couple of issues with my 2005 widescreen and in the end Dell sent me a 2007WFP as a replacement and I've been 100% happy ever since.
 
Dell are awesome !
Just a nice update :D
I got a Call from "Raveena" from Dell just now on my mobile about the issue of the courier that dropped the box after getting it off the van onto the concrete - I emailed Dell yesterday about it and they responded back this morning asking me to tell them if anything was faulty - I replied back that everything was AOK (not a single scratch, box wasn't even damaged either) but it could have been much worse especially considering the value of the goods!

Well the lady called to say that they fully understand the situation and that they are going to contact their courier management to take it further. On top of this Dell are refunding me £30 as compensation for any bad feelings about of the incident.

So, all in all, not only did I save £50+ by buying from Dells online offer but also saved a further £30.

2007WFP for £272 = f.t.w++

Most definately will be using Dell monitors from now on around the home when the need for a new display comes up :)

Awesome customer service.

mattbill said:
that looks reeeeaaaaallllllly nice! im tempted to buy one!

any chance you would be able to take a picture of the back panel where the inputs are, please :)? its just im not to sure whats there lol.

Sure can, will do when I get home from work :)

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this should be ok, i remembered I had a image saved on my home pc for my ref so remote desktopped in

dell2007wfprearss0.jpg
 
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I recently bought a 2007 and am very happy with it too. I must be cursed though as I have never gotten a panel without any dead or stuck pixels!!. This one has a green stuck pixel which shows up on a black background in the middle of the screen but very very hard to see. And 1 red pixel (looks bigger then the green one) which shows up on all light coloured backgrounds and it towards the top of the screen. Have done the usual stuff to try and fix it. To be honest the only time I notice anything is typing stuff in notepad or word and then only the red pixel. Never the blue one in the middle of the screen. In gaming or watching dvd's or general browsing I do not notice any of them. In all other respects the screen is perfect with minimal or no backlight bleed which I hate even more.

Unfortunately a mate bought it for me on sale, and I cannot return it under sale of goods and wouldn't want to bother him about it. (it was my boss who bought it for me). Another mate has offered to take it off my hands for about 75% of it's value over the 2 stuck pixels.

Am wondering what I should do ?
Is it the norm to have 1 or 2 stuck pixels on the 2007. What have other peoples experiences been ?
 
stoofa said:
The majority of Dell panels are now using the faster Philips 8ms panel.
The reason the Dell website states 16ms is that the early revisions did indeed use the older 16ms panel (which still is a great performing piece of kit I may add).
This was mainly due to a delay in the 8ms panels becomming available.

However, because there are some Dell panels out there with the 16ms panel Dell are basically covering their backsides by quoting the highest figure you could expect.
If your panel then turns up with an 8ms response rate you're hardly going to complain are you :)
The 2007WFP really is a nice panel - I had a couple of issues with my 2005 widescreen and in the end Dell sent me a 2007WFP as a replacement and I've been 100% happy ever since.


is this true for the 24"ers also? i cant tell you desperate i am for one.... just cant bring myself to spend that much money when i can get the samsung 22" for £300.
 
deadsquirrel said:
is this true for the 24"ers also? i cant tell you desperate i am for one.... just cant bring myself to spend that much money when i can get the samsung 22" for £300.

I'll be honest and say I'm not too sure about the status on the 24" panels.
They were a little out of my price range, well a little more than I wanted to spend so didn't do a great deal of research into them.
I can't even find my link I had which mentioned the story about the 20" panels - so before anyone asks me to prove what I've said, I'm afraid I can't.

There are an awful lot of 24" Dell users out there, certainly worth reading about people's experiences over at widescreengamingforum.com
The response rate isn't the be all and end all of the panel anyway.
I used to have an NEC1760NX 17" (16ms) panel before I moved to the Dell.
As it got older, faster and faster panels appeared until my 16ms sounded extremely old indeed.
However I still never saw any real amount of ghosting on it in all the time I used it.

It's safe to say that the Dell 24" panel is a lovely piece of kit - however you certainly pay to own one.
The Samsung 22" does sit nicely in the middle - I've not actually seen much about the Samsung, what is it's native resolution?
 
Thank you very much for your helpful reply to my earlier post :)

I was wondering if you could also do some pictures of games/apps running at 1280x1024 similar to the ones that you have done at 1024x768 as 1280x1024 is at the graphical limit of my current system.

This certainly looks like a wonderful piece of kit, and i'm very tempted to get one myself!

Many thanks

Spudgun
 
Spudgun said:
Thank you very much for your helpful reply to my earlier post :)

I was wondering if you could also do some pictures of games/apps running at 1280x1024 similar to the ones that you have done at 1024x768 as 1280x1024 is at the graphical limit of my current system.

This certainly looks like a wonderful piece of kit, and i'm very tempted to get one myself!

Many thanks

Spudgun


They look (aspect wise) exactly the same as they would on 4:3 monitor mate, pretty much how you saw the 1024 ones that's how they'd look but obviously at a bigger resolution :)

Strange though, I see almost no FPS hit in CS:S stress test at 1680x1050 - looks like those who said the 7800GS is very scalable were correct :D
 
Ok, I was bored so thought what the hell, I've now updated the game pics with 1280x1024 ones :D

Also some better angle pics to show what angle colour shift is like (non existant :))
 
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