So when is football going to join the 20th century? (Flether's red card)

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So in F1, they can change the entire result of a race on interviews, video footage, and god knows what else.

But in football, even though the entire world knows a penalty was not justified, before the penalty is even taken, still nothing can be done about it, even regarding the completely unjust red card that may have been given...

Daft... :rolleyes:

Seriously, OK, they don't want to use 'technology' during a game. But for goodness sake, everyone on the planet knows he didn't deserve that red card, but still he has to suffer because of it...
 
Personally I think they should use video technology. Some people say it would disrupt the game due to the time, but thats nonsense. Sky have shown that you can immediately replay an incident in a matter of seconds, and no time would be lost because at the moment time is lost by players standing arguing with the referee anyway.

They could easily use a 3 flag system, similar to several other sports , where you get 3 "flags" during the course of a match where you can request a video check. Doesnt have to be 3 of course, they could just make it 1.

Every single person who watches football knows full well that every referee makes mistakes, and quite often it costs teams vital points.

Personally I think its just a matter of time, I think its inevitable that technology will be used (its already happened in so many other sports in the last few years)...I think it will happen immediately after England reach a world cup final, and lose the final because of a goal being ruled out incorrectly or something like that.

Its supposedly a "professional" sport, and the referees are supposedly "professionals". So I think that the correct professional measures should be taken, as they are in any other walk of life.

(I also think that the media should be allowed to put referees on the spot after a match and show them replays of incidents and ask them why they gave the decision they did. Managers have to (supposedly) give post match interviews, I think Referees should too.)
 
...and even if they can't manage that, to not even address obvious mistakes after the match that can affect a players career, just seems daft to me!
 
Can't tackle from behind, in the penalty area, and only knock the ball a yard to the right of a player and then take him out and expect not to be penalised. Should have been yellow though considering the circumstances, but by the letter of the law it was an obvious goal scoring opportunity
 
I think technology cuts out a lot of talking points about the game. If every decision was cut and dry it would make things boring and take away a part of the sport. That part being that the guy in black is clueless.

On the other hand you have clubs fighting for survival in leagues and a lot of their financial stability depends on being in the top flight, or at least existing in the league they are currently competing in. Note that I'm talking about the use of technology here and not the ability to appeal a card, which is possible in some leagues.

I'm glad I don't have to keep both sides of that argument happy but then again, I'm not being paid megabucks to do so.

The fact that Fletcher will now miss the final for what was a good tackle and has no chance of it being rescinded, is one of the many silly rules that exist in the game.

Should there be a sway to change the rules mid-way in the competition just to suit Manchester United or any other club who may have the same experience tonight? Simply no in my opinion.

Do I think it should be reviewed and corrected for next season? Definitely.
 
jakeke said:
Can't tackle from behind, in the penalty area, and only knock the ball a yard to the right of a player and then take him out and expect not to be penalised. Should have been yellow though considering the circumstances, but by the letter of the law it was an obvious goal scoring opportunity
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He made contact with the ball first and cleanly surely? And is now missing a possible once in a lifetime opportunity...
 
Slogan said:
I think technology cuts out a lot of talking points about the game. If every decision was cut and dry it would make things boring and take away a part of the sport. That part being that the guy in black is clueless.
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I would be happy with that, providing that they stop refering to themselves as professionals. In my book, professionalism encompasses accountability and performance, if you are unaccountable and mistakes are happening and no effort is being made to validate those mistakes, then that (to me) is the very definition of unprofessional , not professional :)

Anyway, I still find Tennis exciting, even though they have replay technology. (I also still find cricket and american football exciting..well ok..maybe not exciting in crickets case, but still watchable :D )
 
The only way to bring Technology in is to use the Tennis/NFL claim system where by you get 'x' number of appeals before the match and you can use them how and when you see fit.
 
NokkonWud said:
The only way to bring Technology in is to use the Tennis/NFL claim system where by you get 'x' number of appeals before the match and you can use them how and when you see fit.
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Yeah, thats what I think too, could be just 1 appeal a game. Or 1 appeal a half or something. Would bring in an element of thought about whether to use it or save it for later in the game etc. Seems to work well in other sports.
 
Cricket uses technology to work out things such as LBW challenges, If I recall correctly. Why can't it be used for red/yellow card challenges?
 
If you want video replays in Football, you'd have to use it across all levels.

I can't see that happening.
It would give teams an unfair advantage over other teams.
 
NeilFawcett said:
He made contact with the ball first and cleanly surely? And is now missing a possible once in a lifetime opportunity...
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Fair enough, he touched the ball first, but he didn't clear the ball did he? He just nudged it to the right a little bit, Fabregas would still have got there, but he got tripped instead.
 
Tummy said:
If you want video replays in Football, you'd have to use it across all levels.

I can't see that happening.
It would give teams an unfair advantage over other teams.
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Seems fair enough to have it across the english and european competitions. If everyone in those competitions has it then everyone is on the same standing. Could even just trial it within the english leagues first to see how it works out.
 
Tombstone said:
Personally I think they should use video technology. Some people say it would disrupt the game due to the time, but thats nonsense. Sky have shown that you can immediately replay an incident in a matter of seconds, and no time would be lost because at the moment time is lost by players standing arguing with the referee anyway.

They could easily use a 3 flag system, similar to several other sports , where you get 3 "flags" during the course of a match where you can request a video check. Doesnt have to be 3 of course, they could just make it 1.
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Football is a different sport to most others in that respect. in Rugby, for example, the ball is "out of play" when such incidents occur and so stopping the game for a quick video recap is easy.

If you have a similar scenario in football, say a shot comes in and there's a situation where it's in dispute whether the ball's crossed the goal line or not, but the ball's still in play - where do you stop the game?

"when the ball goes out of play" i hear you say, but what if the opposing team goes running off up the pitch and scores a goal at the other end, or a player then gets sent off for dangerous play. You then take a look at the replay and find out that the ball actually DID cross the line earlier and what do you do? rescind the red card or goal?

it's not as simple as just "make them show a replay"

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Well half the time in that situation, players swarm the ref and play is disrupted anyway. Failing that it could be used in other situations that are more easily workable for the moment.

The way I see it is that its much better to at least give it a try and find a workable solution than to just outright dismiss the idea as some in the industry have done.
 
Tombstone said:
Seems fair enough to have it across the english and european competitions. If everyone in those competitions has it then everyone is on the same standing. Could even just trial it within the english leagues first to see how it works out.
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Who's paying for the technology ? The clubs ? The FA ? (ha) Fifa ?

They're going to need to give the technology to every proffessional football club in the world, it will give teams massive advantages else.

You can't just use it at one level, it has to be on all levels.

One of the best things about football is once you know the rules, you don't need much else.
 
Tummy said:
Who's paying for the technology ? The clubs ? The FA ? (ha) Fifa ?

They're going to need to give the technology to every proffessional football club in the world, it will give teams massive advantages else.

You can't just use it at one level, it has to be on all levels.

One of the best things about football is once you know the rules, you don't need much else.
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Why every professional club in the world?

If for instance its trialled in the english leagues, how does that give the english teams an advantage in europe against a foreign team?

It wouldnt be the first time that FIFA have trialled a rule only in one region.

Once again I say, better to give it a try than just dismiss it out of hand. IMO anyway.
 
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