So Where Did Frodo Go?

Ice Rich · 20 Nov 2006 at 18:32

Hello,

I watched the lord Of the Rings movies ages ago and there was always a question I wanted to ask (as i seen it again last night on ch.4 it reminded me)

Why did Frodo get on the boat at the end and where is he going?

Aod · 20 Nov 2006 at 18:35

he went to the undying lands.

see this map:

on the right is middle earth, on the left is the undying lands. the small island in the middle was eaten by a giant turtle. (seriously)

Burt · 20 Nov 2006 at 18:36

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undying_Lands

I assume he got on the boat because of his tie to the ring(s). Every other ring-bearer is on the ship or dead.

HEADRAT · 20 Nov 2006 at 18:50

Ice Rich said:
Why did Frodo get on the boat at the end and where is he going?

I thought Bilbo went somewhere, not Frodo!

HEADRAT

Gilly · 20 Nov 2006 at 18:54

Frodo and Bilbo were allowed to sail to the Undying Lands due to the burdens they'd carried and that they'd never be wholly cured in Middle Earth. They're viewed as somewhat of a paradise.

Ricochet J · 20 Nov 2006 at 18:58

Aod said:
on the right is middle earth, on the left is the undying lands. the small island in the middle was eaten by a giant turtle. (seriously)

LOL!

Edit: How many years before is that map set up from our world now?

sarutobi · 20 Nov 2006 at 19:24

why is it called middle earth if its on the right?

AmaTeX · 20 Nov 2006 at 19:25

theDave said:
why is it called middle earth if its on the right?

it relates to timescale not location i believe.

Skunkworks · 20 Nov 2006 at 19:32

theDave said:
why is it called middle earth if its on the right?

Because Right Earth sounds crap.

monkeypants · 20 Nov 2006 at 19:35

Was it not because he got stabbed by the Witch King and would become an "empty vessel" if he remained in Middle Earth?

dannyjo22 · 20 Nov 2006 at 19:36

Burt said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undying_Lands

Every other ring-bearer is on the ship or dead.

Not Sam he's a ring bearer too and joins frodo later in the undying lands.

robmiller · 20 Nov 2006 at 19:36

theDave said:
why is it called middle earth if its on the right?

It's a historical/chronological term, not a geographical one (although most people use it as the latter for convenience).

dannyjo22 · 20 Nov 2006 at 19:37

monkeypants said:
Was it not because he got stabbed by the Witch King and would become an "empty vessel" if he remained in Middle Earth?

Its because he was dying and wouldnt die in the undying land ever.

Gilly · 20 Nov 2006 at 19:39

dannyjo22 said:
Its because he was dying and wouldnt die in the undying land ever.

Yes he would. Mortals remain mortal in the undying lands. Even the firstborns aren't actually immortal IIRC.

KurTz · 20 Nov 2006 at 19:40

Never read the books, only seen the films and thought they were all brilliant. How much from the books is missing on screen?

Gilly · 20 Nov 2006 at 19:42

KurTz said:
Never read the books, only seen the films and thought they were all brilliant. How much from the books is missing on screen?

Lots.

Amp34 · 20 Nov 2006 at 19:44

It seems to be attached at the top. Why were the elves so desperate to get the "last" boat if they could just walk around?

Actually why were the elves so desperate to get to the undying lands anyway?

robmiller · 20 Nov 2006 at 19:45

KurTz said:
Never read the books, only seen the films and thought they were all brilliant. How much from the books is missing on screen?

Lots and lots and lots. Read the books, they're absolutely fantastic

I'm so glad I read them before I saw the films. Part of it is that it's nostalgic to reread them, since I first read them in primary school, and part of it is that I have my own ideas of the characters and so Frodo isn't ruined by the quite frankly gash Elijah Wood.

Gilly · 20 Nov 2006 at 19:49

Amp34 said:
It seems to be attached at the top. Why were the elves so desperate to get the "last" boat if they could just walk around?

Nah, the Undying Lands can only be reached by sailing to them. They were taken from the world when the last king of Númenor attacked them in search of immortality. Sauron talked him into that.

jellybeard999 · 20 Nov 2006 at 20:32

The books have a lot more material than the film (no-one would sit through hundreds of hours of film), but also a lot of unneccessary junk (ie 6 pages of elfish song in a made up language - adds nothing, and you just read random sounds).