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Sorry AMD.

elroberto said:
For general usage you won't notice the difference between most CPU's from the last 3 years or so. If you play BF3 or use really CPU intensive applications that don't multithread very well you won't benefit from Bulldozer. If you constantly use apps that can utilise all cores like encoding video in Handbrake then Bulldozer will kick some ass.

Since I'm putting together a NAS as a home-media server and will be ripping my bluray collection to it, Bulldozer is tempting me. But if they can hurry up with piledriver then that could be the one to go for. Improving BD's single threaded performance and pushing even further in multi-threaded apps would clawback territory from Sandy and Ivy. It all depends on how people seek to use their PC's.
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Uhm, BF3 multi threads really well....
 
humbug said:
+1, well. depends on Piledriver, when its out, how much it costs and how it performs.
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I wouldn't wait around it looks like AMD are on the slide to bankruptcy.

If you had invested your money in AMD in June, you would have lost about 30 percent. Had you invested in Gamestop, you would have made about 25 percent and hold shares of a company that is now valued higher than AMD.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-stock-market-gamestop-shares,17714.html
 
Freddie1980 said:
I wouldn't wait around it looks like AMD are on the slide to bankruptcy.



http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-stock-market-gamestop-shares,17714.html
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I know, i have been watching this on market watch http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/AMD

AMD's shares have not been good for the past year. but it's not as important as it appears. It certainly matters but they have been in far worse situations than they are in now, not long ago there shares bottomed out at well under $2, and then bounced back up to about $10.

AMD have been running at an R&D loss for about 2 years, they payed off there remaining shares in GloFo, that cost them about $1.8bn, they are making the final payment for that in this quarter, once that it done they are on track for about $500m a quarter running cost profit.

They have also been hit by Thomas Seifert suddenly resigning, just 2 days ago, before that the shares were on a steep upward trajectory, then slumped again when that news broke, they are now back on the way up again...

They will soldier on as they always have.

And more worrying for us this is not just a problem for AMD, Intel have just been down graded to neutral.

The Desktop market, and all that goes with it is taking it's last dying breath, and there is far less money in the world now for people to build very costly and extravagant Desktop's

Piledriver will happen, Haswell will happen, Steamroller will happen.

But i think they will be the last higher end Desktop chips, from then on it will probably be server chips and APU type chips.
 
humbug said:
there is far less money in the world now for people to build very costly and extravagant Desktop's
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hehe I am never stopping buying the latest parts. The most expensive bits are 1 maybe 2 months disposable income. The only reason you wouldn't buy bits is if you had kids in which case you CERRRRAAAAAYZZZEY!!!. Me and GF are holding off until we got a house with a cost less than renting before having our limit of 1 child only. Simples just live within your means but 70% + of the UK does not do this.
 
Thinks overclockers need to change the banners now

STEP 1
Purchase a qualifying product from us between 11th June and 31st August 2012.

STEP 2
Complete the online claim form which you can find here and upload your proof of purchase before the closing date of 18th September 2012
 
yeah going to have to agree with Humbug on that assessment, sure their share prices aren't great but that is down to the fact they are getting rid of loose ends. but in the market they aren't remotely badly placed, the only area where they really fall down is the high-end desktop market, Trinity is fantastic in its target segment, as was Llano, Opterons are still doing reasonable well, even Bulldozer isn't doing 'too' badly, fair enough it was pretty well slated by everyone in the world, and their dogs, but they seem to be selling not so bad.

given the fact more Trinity based chips are going to be entering the market and they offer superior performance in Ultrabooks to Intel, for a lower price that could turn out to be a very lucrative market for them, Piledriver if it ever appears is going to bring reasonable improvements (IIRC the IPC improvement vs. Bulldozer was 15 - 20%) when testing Trinity, that at least takes them clearly past the Stars based processors they are replacing. also their new clock recycling doo-dah is bringing down power draw, all steps in the right direction.

can't see them going bankrupt, so think AMD are right now sitting at there very lowest point, and will likely be all positive from the turn of the year, not to mention the 7*** series graphics cards are doing well against Kepler due to their fantastic performance/watt and performance/dollar, lets see what the future brings before dooming a company that we all need to exist. ;)
 
humbug said:
I know, i have been watching this on market watch http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/AMD

AMD's shares have not been good for the past year. but it's not as important as it appears. It certainly matters but they have been in far worse situations than they are in now, not long ago there shares bottomed out at well under $2, and then bounced back up to about $10.

AMD have been running at an R&D loss for about 2 years, they payed off there remaining shares in GloFo, that cost them about $1.8bn, they are making the final payment for that in this quarter, once that it done they are on track for about $500m a quarter running cost profit.

They have also been hit by Thomas Seifert suddenly resigning, just 2 days ago, before that the shares were on a steep upward trajectory, then slumped again when that news broke, they are now back on the way up again...

They will soldier on as they always have.

And more worrying for us this is not just a problem for AMD, Intel have just been down graded to neutral.

The Desktop market, and all that goes with it is taking it's last dying breath, and there is far less money in the world now for people to build very costly and extravagant Desktop's

Piledriver will happen, Haswell will happen, Steamroller will happen.

But i think they will be the last higher end Desktop chips, from then on it will probably be server chips and APU type chips.
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Thomas Seifert......... it only seems like yesterday when they appointed him, I remember all the hurah about the previous CEO getting the boot because (rumored) he wasn't interested in the mobile market.

As for the trend is how you look at it, look back to 2007 or 2006 and shares where trading at around $40.00 today there about $3.60. I believe forum user 'Drunkmaster' owns stock in AMD and believe he has lot quite abit of money unless he's been selling and buying at the right times. :(

I'm not to concerned over AMD's fate, if they did collapse someone will come in and buy them up or buy the assests it's the debts that are holding them back. Maybe the old ATI founders could come in and snap them back!
 
In all my browsing I have yet to see someone reference the AMD chip as Bullshizer.

I think that should be its new name from this point onwards.

When the Piledriver comes out and everyone is disappointed, this can also be adapted and be called the Pileshizer.

I should work in marketing with these skillz.
 
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