Spec me: £50k 4x4

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So, after a Discovery 4 replacement.

New Disco 5, in any new shape worth having, HSE spec can be had for £50k but really only poor optioned 2 litre diesels. Oddly, some old Disco 4s get near £50k depending on spec.

I think I'd want a petrol D5 if one ever appeared on approved used but that's not likely for a while.

XC90 is really hitting the spot. It's been around in its current facelift for a few years and gets really good reviews. Again, sadly only really 2litre diesels seem to be the norm (to maximise cabin space) or hybrid jobbies. We'd get a pretty magnificent spec XC90 for £50k and their residuals better that than JLR, BMW and Merc.

Other options, a few years old, and therefore technologically ageing, FFRR or RRS.

One such XC90
http://volvocars-poole.selekt.volvo...rpulse-awd-inscription-automatic-pro-t4bs5w8f

Weirdly love that interior...

Others I'm missing that offer space, poke, and a suite of fairly modern tech?
 
Volvo took a decision a few years ago to only make 4-cylinder engines (and hybrids). XC90 is lush.
Don't know prices of luxury 4x4s, but if you like it, go for it.

Not interested in an X5 or a Q7?
 
Grand Cherokee? Again, a slightly older platform – but facelifted in '17 (so that's the one to aim for) and graced with stout underpinnings (excellent in the rough). Quite pleasant to drive, more so than the previous gen of Q7, at any rate. 3.0-litre turbodiesel V6 (or the V8, if so inclined). Could buy a diesel one new for that kind of money but not that I'd recommend it given depreciation.

Extremely extensive kit lists, in any case. If you went, say, for an Overland with a Safety Pack it'd feature the following:

- Ventilated, heated electric front seats (8-way, 4-way adjustable bolsters), heated rear seats
- Heated steering wheel
- 8.4-inch touchscreen with Bluetooth, voice control, DAB & 825W sound system
- Dual-zone climate
- Air suspension
- 7-inch instrument cluster display
- Quadra-Drive II 4WD system with low-range mode
- Electronically controlled limited-slip differential (rear)
- Adaptive cruise control
- Automatic emergency braking
- Emergency brake assistance
- Rear cross-path assist and a rear-view camera
- Panoramic sunroof
- Automatic lights
- Tyre pressure monitoring
- Electric steering column adjustment
- Bi-Xenon HID lights, LED DRLs
- Hill-start assist/hill descent control
- Auto-dipping rear view

... etc.

Probably pay around £30-£40k for a nearly new example – like this one (missing the Safety Pack, mind - you can get an entertainment pack, too):
http://usedcars.jeep.co.uk/single-used-car/jeep-grand-cherokee-diesel-5dr-201710039915014/

Or buy the full-fat V8 SRT, haha, if you can stomach around 20mpg: http://usedcars.jeep.co.uk/single-used-car/jeep-grand-cherokee-petrol-5dr-201711211444594/

Always quite liked the 75th, myself. Don't have ventilated seats or the electronically controlled limited-slip rear differential, IIRC, but there's only 125 in the UK (I think). http://usedcars.jeep.co.uk/single-used-car/jeep-grand-cherokee-diesel-5dr-201709279708834/

The marginally more expensive Summit features 20-inch wheels as standard (and some brash chrome trim) but the ride's a bit more aggressive as a result.

Neighbour's just bought an Overland, coincidentally – replacing a Disco 4 with it as they're just tired of reliability issues and, crappy dealers aside, Jeeps actually seem to do quite well on that front. Your mileage may vary, though, of course.

Saying that, my other neighbour ditched both their Disco and Range Rover Sport for a Grand Cherokee SRT. Had such a good experience with it that they've since bought another Jeep. :)
 
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left field..... I traded my 15 plate D4 early last year and bought an A6 Allroad. Unless you need 7 seats its a pretty good compromise. The big pulls for me were the 3.0 diesel, 4wd as standard and the air suspension as standard like the disco. magic carpet just like the disco. oh and an 12mth old one with good spec is more like 30k. good value.

oh, and the new D5 looks bloody awful lol.
 
Nowt wrong with the 2.0 twin turbo diesel in the Disco 5. My brother-in-law has one and cant fault it. Remember it has 240PS - 53 more than the Disco 3 had when it was launched, and the 5 weighs a lot less.
 
^^ Joe has a good point. Done plenty of off-roading in a four-banger Disco 5 and it's fine. Plenty of torque. Quality of JLR products seems particularly suspect at the moment, though – every one I've driven in recent times has had some kind of flaw and the problems seem to be getting more substantial as time goes on. Still, nice cars...
 
left field..... I traded my 15 plate D4 early last year and bought an A6 Allroad. Unless you need 7 seats its a pretty good compromise. The big pulls for me were the 3.0 diesel, 4wd as standard and the air suspension as standard like the disco. magic carpet just like the disco. oh and an 12mth old one with good spec is more like 30k. good value.

oh, and the new D5 looks bloody awful lol.
Alternatively, the V90 CC. My old man's one is lovely imo.
 
I don't doubt the IL4 is a great engine (in either the XC90 or D5) but it was the smoothness and grunt of the V6TT in the D4 that made me wet. I used to love that proper loud whoosh it gave from low revs, like it wasn't the car moving along the road, rather the car stood still and just spun the world around underneath it, kind of feeling.

The XC90 is really winning at the mo, the example above particularly excites me. We're off to see it next weekend for a TR so we'll see what comes back.

I'd be foolish to rule out any of the JLR range from 2016 onwards, so we might find ourselves back over that way at least for a look
 
@Django x2 like a number of motors threads recently people are seeking unrealistic expectations for what they can achieve in budget.

Not necessarily what they can afford but what can be bought at key price points and what the want to pay.

The XC90 is a good car. I would pick it over the new discovery but that's out of personal preference. Only downside is depreciation on these which still seems rather sharp.

In either option and for 7 seats in the spec you want with your criteria; you really don't have much choice. Either that, or you compromise on the engine with the discovery for now then trade in as prices drop. A RR must be an option too?
 
@Scrutinize Yep a FFRR is an option, as is a RRS but not with the newer infotainment system and I really started to notice how crap the old system was in the D4.

The XC90s are holding their values better than the X5s and Mercs of the same ilk (age, mileage, spec), so it's probably not the worst place to be looking and they do look really good on the road.

We've got a test drive of the one posted above lined up for next weekend so it will be good to back to back that against the Discovery 5
 
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