Spec Me a repmobile

DannyW · 11 Apr 2008 at 19:36

to be honest i think fox is right about needing 130+ bhp in rep cars. i had a focus 1.6 which was dangerously slow on the motorway, but ive had a passat 2.0 tdi hire car and my mk3 mondeo both with around 140 bhp and both feel fine on the motorway no complaints about performance i go to manchester every weekend(gf) in the mondeo never feel like it needs more power tbh

mjt · 11 Apr 2008 at 20:19

DannyW said:
i had a focus 1.6 which was dangerously slow on the motorway

what is this "dangerously slow" nonsense?
i fail to see how a 100 bhp 1.6 is dangerously slow

it can't bomb down the motorway at 120mph and it loses speed up steep hills, oh noes! it's dangerous!

stop talking out of your arse

jamoor · 11 Apr 2008 at 20:22

mjt said:
what is this "dangerously slow" nonsense?
i fail to see how a 100 bhp 1.6 is dangerously slow

it can't bomb down the motorway at 120mph and it loses speed up steep hills, oh noes! it's dangerous!

stop talking out of your arse

I agree, either his car was at fault, or he isn't a very good driver.

[TW]Fox · 11 Apr 2008 at 20:28

Agreed, the one place the Laguna wasnt a pain was the Motorway :confused:

Kappa · 11 Apr 2008 at 20:41

Mk 4 Mondeo, should have better residuals than the passat

Pug · 11 Apr 2008 at 21:04

Kappa said:
Mk 4 Mondeo, should have better residuals than the passat

really? that surprises me greatly. Especially when parkers would disagree :confused:

whilst generslly crap at pricing, its consistently crap.

[TW]Fox · 11 Apr 2008 at 21:05

I'm suprised anyone can say for sure WHAT Mondeo residuals will be as the all new model isn't even a year old yet.

Scrutinize · 11 Apr 2008 at 21:26

[TW]Fox;11481762 said:
I'm suprised anyone can say for sure WHAT Mondeo residuals will be as the all new model isn't even a year old yet.

At a guess will follow the same pattern as all mondeos before it.

[TW]Fox · 11 Apr 2008 at 21:28

mrk1@1 said:
At a guess will follow the same pattern as all mondeos before it.

Maybe maybe not - it's better than the Mondeos before it, it's the closest Ford have come to being a credible 3 Series rival.

Pug · 11 Apr 2008 at 22:00

[TW]Fox;11481876 said:
Maybe maybe not - it's better than the Mondeos before it, it's the closest Ford have come to being a credible 3 Series rival.

sadly the oval blue badge will see to its residuals.

Kappa · 11 Apr 2008 at 22:03

Pug said:
really? that surprises me greatly. Especially when parkers would disagree whilst generslly crap at pricing, its consistently crap.

I'm just looking at 1 year values as a guide which I know isnt accurate, but Parkers 3 year estimate may use data based on the previous Mondeo, go and have a look at the value of an 07 Mondeo Zetec compared to an 07 Passat, think you'll be surprised. The New Mondeo has a long lead time and they cant make them fast enough.

Ok, for people who are lazy, 07 Mondeo Zetec ~£13k, 07 Passat S ~£11.5k

jamoor · 11 Apr 2008 at 22:03

[TW]Fox;11481876 said:
Maybe maybe not - it's better than the Mondeos before it, it's the closest Ford have come to being a credible 3 Series rival.

Probbably better, seeing as how dire the new 3 series actually is from all aspects bar the handling and engines.

If only ford would develop a 6cyl diesel engine.

Kappa · 11 Apr 2008 at 22:05

mrk1@1 said:
At a guess will follow the same pattern as all mondeos before it.

Old mondeos were used frequently as Fleet Cars, the New Mondeo is purposefully not going to be sold as Fleet sales, for that reason

Kappa · 11 Apr 2008 at 22:07

jamoor said:
If only ford would develop a 6cyl diesel engine.

Doesnt seem to be on the horizon, but 2.2 175bhp TDCi seems nice in the meantime.

[TW]Fox · 11 Apr 2008 at 22:07

I dont think I've seen a new Mondeo that isnt a fleet car yet

jamoor · 11 Apr 2008 at 22:08

[TW]Fox;11482076 said:
I dont think I've seen a new Mondeo that isnt a fleet car yet

Our neighbour has one, he seems to have a knack for buying big depreciators, he used to have a vauxhall omega before it.

But yes, they are going the same way as the other ones.

Kappa · 11 Apr 2008 at 22:10

[TW]Fox;11482076 said:
I dont think I've seen a new Mondeo that isnt a fleet car yet

lol, im just quoting what Ford of Britain Chairman said. However I havent seen any fleet new mondeos, only Ford's own fleet.

EDIT - Just went to autotrader to look for mk4 Mondeos to prove a point and came away with nothing, NONE were in the £12k budget, ones which came close were 1.6l Edge (i.e. poverty), So I think that ends that debate.

Pug · 11 Apr 2008 at 22:17

Kappa said:
I'm just looking at 1 year values as a guide which I know isnt accurate, but Parkers 3 year estimate may use data based on the previous Mondeo, go and have a look at the value of an 07 Mondeo Zetec compared to an 07 Passat, think you'll be surprised. The New Mondeo has a long lead time and they cant make them fast enough.

Ok, for people who are lazy, 07 Mondeo Zetec ~£13k, 07 Passat S ~£11.5k

you dont list new prices, so its a bit hard to work out depreciation.

Also, as you hinted, people will be paying a premium for the new model - so cant draw a comparison until 3 years in, after they've been through the rep system.

finally a Zetec isnt equivalent to a base model passat, and would be more desirable (at a guess?)

small points, but valid. Its fords medium size car, and so will be common as muck, and depreciate.

steviec · 11 Apr 2008 at 22:19

Skoda Octavia?

[TW]Fox · 11 Apr 2008 at 22:21

Zetec is near bottom of the range IIRC.