spec my mate plz 700 quid, base unit and monitor

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It calculates it on expected weight I think. Thus putting a CRT in instead of a TFT is pushing it from the £11 shipping to the £25 one.




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AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ (Socket 939) - OEM (CP-152-AM)
£187.94
Asus A8N-E nForce4 Ultra (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-088-AS)
£72.79
GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS2.5 (GE1GB3200BHDC) (MY-005-GL)
£58.69
PowerColor ATI Radeon X850 XT 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-037-PC)
£152.69
Hitachi Deskstar T7K250 NCQ 160GB SATA-II 8MB Cache - OEM (0A31637) (HD-001-HI)
£56.34
Antec Sonata II Piano Black Quiet Case - 450W Smart Power PSU (CA-040-AN)
£77.49
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) (FG-000-AR)
£17.04
Hyundai ImageQuest Q770S 17'' Perfectly Flat CRT Monitor - Black/Silver (MO-006-HY)
£76.32

Total inc VAT: £699.30


That's a pretty solid spec for one with a CRT instead of a TFT.
 
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problem :( ... please dotn kick me in lol.
petes just decided to fit an x-fi and a medusa into the spec and a 250GB maxator instead of 160 hiatchi
so ive come up with this...
REFERENCE DESCRIPTION QUANTITY PRICE COST REMOVE
FG-000-AR Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) (FG-000-AR)
£14.50 £14.50
CP-150-AM AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 90nm (Socket 939) - OEM (CP-150-AM)
£122.95 £122.95
MB-129-AS Asus A8R-MVP Crossfire (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-129-AS)
£69.95 £69.95
MY-005-GL GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS2.5 (GE1GB3200BHDC) (MY-005-GL)
£49.95 £49.95
GX-055-PC PowerColor ATI Radeon X800 GTO16 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-055-PC)
£104.95 £104.95
MO-006-HY Hyundai ImageQuest Q770S 17'' Perfectly Flat CRT Monitor - Black/Silver (MO-006-HY)
£64.95 £64.95
SC-034-CL Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music - Retail (SC-034-CL)
£69.95 £69.95
CA-001-AR Arctic Cooling T2 Silentium Silent Midi Tower Case - 450W Seasonic Silent PSU (CA-001-AR)
£49.95 £49.95
SP-000-RA SpeedLink Medusa SL-8790 5.1 Surround Headset (SP-000-RA)
£45.95 £45.95
HD-088-MD Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 10 NCQ 250GB 6V250F0 SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (HD-088-MD)
£57.95 £57.95
Subtotal £651.05
Shipping (City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)) £24.95
VAT £118.30
Total £794.30

explicit is there somehting missing from that spec... i cant work out why that spec is soo cheap :| lol weird ! all the components are more expensivwe but its come out cheaper lol...can you perform that trick in everyday liife ?
 
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Tell you mate not to bother with the X-Fi... You REALLY don't need it with the MVP - it has the best sound on any motherboard.. not quite up to X-Fi standards but damned close.. I'd also go for the Opty/X850 I specced as it's more balanced.
 
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scrap the x-fi then idf the onbord is good yea ? ( my experience with onboard is a bad one :p )
im not up to speed on AMD... whats the difference between the opty and the 64 ? which is better ? and could you explaint he ballence ?
 
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Opty = hand picked SD cored CPU.

i.e. the 3700+ and Opty are identicle chips. the Opty however is hand picked and in theory overclocks better. the reason I chose it was that it is a good deal at the moment and balances the spec better.

Note when I say identicle I mean not including the multiplier.. the Opty ( unoverclocked) is slower than the 3700+.
 
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I'd swap the maxtor for a hitach 250gb, far superior drive

Agreed. Any drive is better than a maxtor. And a Hitachi would be the best of the lot.

I've had two Maxtors fail on me so far. Now I have a Hitachi and I love it.
 
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Personally i think the Maxtor drives are good.
Had 2 so far & no problems at all, & they are very fast too.
Thats my experience with them.
 
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I'd swap the maxtor for a hitach 250gb, far superior drive

im not being funny... but for the extra money in my eyes it doesnt seem worth it :S... i mean I would naturaly go for the highert pwerformance one ( yes i know i have 2 maxators lol dont start :p ) but i think for 250GB on a budget the maxators are fine.

im really sorry guuys by the way bt me and my mate have been emailing all night and the needs have been chnagiing but it aseems to be composed of a mix of all your specs

not going for the opty as he wont be buying 'This Week' and he deffo wont be overclocking it :)

so i think were going to settle for the following... ( i think the 3700 or the 3800 is still in the air... but this shouldnt matter for the price difference
so appologies for the everstganging needs / wants... but if i didnt have you mad AMD and ATI ghuys id never have gotten this spec ! lol

here we go :

Shopping Cart (Prices in British Pounds) REFERENCE DESCRIPTION QUANTITY PRICE COST REMOVE
FG-000-AR Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) (FG-000-AR)
£14.50 £14.50
MB-129-AS Asus A8R-MVP Crossfire (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-129-AS)
£69.95 £69.95
MY-005-GL GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS2.5 (GE1GB3200BHDC) (MY-005-GL)
£49.95 £49.95
CA-001-AR Arctic Cooling T2 Silentium Silent Midi Tower Case - 450W Seasonic Silent PSU (CA-001-AR)
£49.95 £49.95
SP-000-RA SpeedLink Medusa SL-8790 5.1 Surround Headset (SP-000-RA)
£45.95 £45.95
HD-088-MD Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 10 NCQ 250GB 6V250F0 SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (HD-088-MD)
£57.95 £57.95
GX-037-PC PowerColor ATI Radeon X850 XT 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-037-PC)
£129.95 £129.95
SC-037-CL Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 4 7.1 EAX Sound Card - OEM (SC-037-CL)
£29.95 £29.95
MO-006-HY Hyundai ImageQuest Q770S 17'' Perfectly Flat CRT Monitor - Black/Silver (MO-006-HY)
£64.95 £64.95
CP-150-AM AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 90nm (Socket 939) - OEM (CP-150-AM)
£122.95 £122.95
Subtotal £636.05
Shipping (City Link Parcel Next Day (Delivered Mon-Fri)) £24.95
VAT £115.68
Total £776.68



so you may be wondering where that extra 76 came from. well thats shipping and a medusa headset and audigy 4 soundcard... i wouldnt say the headset and shipping were part of the spec as such and they count for (about) 76 quid :)
well. thats quite a good spec for that money as far as i can see !!
again thanks a lot EVERYONE who has had input... ofcourse its still open to suggestions :)
but just to set the record straight., hes on a pretttttty low budget PC at the moment so i dibt he would notice the difference between say a hiatchi and a maxator, where we probobly would etc
thanks again. Rick
 
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If you can fit the 3700+ into budget that it's a good chip to go for but don't get too hung up on the 'overlocking' tag seen with Opties. They are very good chips unoverclocked and often run cooler than their San Diego core stablemates like the 3700+.

The Opty I specified is of course slower than the 3700+ SD due to lower multiplier ( I think it's about a 3300+ ) but just wanted to clarify that the Opty isn't a specific Overclocking CPU. It's a damned good CPU that happens to overclock well but it good in it's own right.

Oh and definatly drop the Audigy - the HD sound on the Asus board is definatly at least as good.
 
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Audigy is really not worth the money. As BigDom has stated, the onboard sound is very good. Save the money and get the Hitachi instead :D
 
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But a 250GB Hitachi (HD-002-HI) is only £8 more. I would really advise against buying Maxtor. I'm not talking about petty things like speed, which is true, you'd have to be quite in tune with computers to notice the speed difference. Reliability is what I'm talking about. Before anyone slags me off saying their Maxtors have never failed. Good for you. But someone has to come bottom of the reliability tables, and AFAIK, its Maxtor.
 
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okay thanks dom !
as i said my experience with AMD is erm... well i have an AMD 1Ghz compaq ... but thats about it !
i understand what you mean about not being an OCers chip though :)
would the audigy not be better with headphones though as theyre much closer to your head etc and you can hear every lil defeact... also the little bit extra performance you get from pci S/C's ( LITTLE bit :p )

is the onboard souind really that good ?? !! ... im impressed :p
it will save him some dosh i suppose... he was about to buy a 60 quid senn USB headset ( i tolfd hime its more future proff to get a 3.5 audio jack one incase he buys an x-fi or something later )
 
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