speed cameras....grrrrr

jimblowscash said:
true but how satisfying blowing the thing up.....
i see loads of cameras done by putting two van tires over the top of the camera, and then setting light to them, theyu cook up quite well, plus there was a spate of people cutting them down with gas tortches..... good on em i say

Presumably you advocate the destruction of other crime fighting measures, like policemen?
 
Werewolf said:
He didn't have the right idea at all, if anything he was a bloody idiot.

He's lucky it was only 4 months in jail, as I'm fairly sure it could have been much longer (criminal damage, theft of the materials used etc).

IIRC it's damage to crown property - which is even more serious?

Thing is, majority of speed cameras are put not necessarily where people speed, but where the most accidents occur due to speed. For example, there's one on the A66 from Teeside to Darlington where there're quite a few bends. This is due to repeating accidents caused by people going too fast rather than people solely speeding.

If a speed cameras there, people slow down.. If they slow down, they don't have accidents.

-RaZ
 
I wouldnt condone damaging the Gatso's but if a black bag happened to be blown over them by the wind so the pics wouldnt show anything would that be so bad? :p
 
AJUK said:
You must drive like an old woman then. ;)


Or someone who really needs the use of the car and doesn't risk losing it ;) not to mention leaves enough time in any journey that i'm not panicing if I get stuck in traffic for 10 minutes;)
 
What a total idiot, he has no one to blame but himself for driving like a prat.

If he was that concerned about losing his job, he wouldn't have been speeding in the first place :rolleyes:

MoNkeE said:
If a speed cameras there, people slow down.. If they slow down, they don't have accidents.

-RaZ

No, if they slow down, they don't get points ;)
 
Raymond Lin said:
You are encouraging criminal damage?

It's the wrong way to fight speed cameras, blow it up they'll just put it back up. Who do you think ended up paying for the new one?

Well, if the system is working how it should work, then money from the fines is used to replace the cameras and pay for new ones.
So in theory, break enough camera's and the camera partnership runs out of money since all its money is spent replacing camera's.
 
Visage said:
Presumably you advocate the destruction of other crime fighting measures, like policemen?

you see thats exactly my point there not a crime fighting tool there a cash machiene for local authority.

you want to cut crime pay more police men and women, how many would you be able to pay / train for £117,400?????? if you really wanted to cut road deaths and serious accidents you would invest the money into driver education and put harder tests in place.... i get clients turn up at the tract that honestly leave me wondering how they ever got there in the first place there driving is so bad!
 
you put a camera outside a school or a park or station or any other built up public place then fair enough, if anyone is stupid enough to go speeding about in a town or near a school they deserve points fines etc, however being 5mph mover the limit on the motorway at three in the morning or caught doing 66 ( as my 63 yr old mother was three weeks ago) on a deserted B road in deepest darkest kent is just an excuse to generate cash
pure and simple
 
Doonhamer said:
Because people suddenly slamming on the brakes to slow down for the gatso they just noticed will never cause an accident. :o

If you drive within the speed limit all the time, then you wouldn't need to slam on the brakes...
 
Samtheman1k said:
If you drive within the speed limit all the time, then you wouldn't need to slam on the brakes...

Never a more false word spoken! Nonsense.
 
mysticsniper said:
No, if they slow down, they don't get points ;)

It doesn't matter what their motivation is in slowing down - the fact that they are slowing down means they [the cameras] are doing their jobs :)

Doonhamer said:
Because people suddenly slamming on the brakes to slow down for the gatso they just noticed will never cause an accident. :o

Yes, the odd person will do that. But they're in the minority. You also have to consider that the accident they're going to suffer from that is completely different to skidding off the road at 90mph 'cause they're not as good of a drive as they thought :)

-RaZ
 
Samtheman1k said:
If you drive within the speed limit all the time, then you wouldn't need to slam on the brakes...

Also he should be keeping the correct braking distance ;)

AJUK said:
When you have learned to drive, then you will be:

a) Qualified to ask the question
b) Qualified to answer it

In short, yes it is very hard to stick to the speed limits! ;)

I've no problem with them either, I've been driving for over 10 years and never once been stopped by police, had any points or fined by a camera. I drive carefully, not slowly and I'd certainly never claim I didn't speed - I do. However I don't drive around like a maniac or half asleep.

I wish they'd target the placement of cameras better, they are on some very odd spots as well as accident blackspots. I'd also like all funds gathered to go to repairing/improving the roads.

I have more of a problem with traffic "calming" measures like ballards, humps, rumble strips and really weird shaped islands and kerbs that poke out into the road, they do my head in and frankly are just annoying as I rarely slow down for a hump :p *cough*
 
Yes, of course doing 90+ mph isnt safe in a car that can easily handle it and driven by someone with more years experience than most coppers are years old.

Is that safe? IMO Yes. I'd be quite happy doing 130 if I knew the car could handle it and the driven was competent. If people didn't **** around weaving in and out of traffic, kept distance and drive as they are ment to with well maintained cars then accidents will be much much reduced and we could have 100+ mph speed limits on open roads with no problems at all.

Poland doesn't have such strict driving laws, no speed cameras, overtaking in towns, etc. Now I would say that isn't safe but as most of there two lane roads could easily be made into 4 lane ones there isn't a problem overtaking. Also the people move to the side of the road when someone is behind them and actually pay attention to what is going on. In the 2 weeks I was there I didn't see ONE road crash, on the final day there was one at night where two people jumped red lights and it was on the local news.

Speed cameras by schools and built up areas, ok fine. Motorways and deserted roads? No. If they crash thats their problem, driving too fast for the conditions blah blah blah.

Nanny state buisness :rolleyes:


As for destroying speed cameras, I dont condone it. As we have to pay for them in the first place ****s! :rolleyes:

/rant
 
The only annoying speed cameras are the ones on the M25.

I absolutely despise people who do 40 and above in 30 residential zones, and most speed cameras are found in these zones. 30 is there for a damn good reason, yet people still drive through doing 40-50. The amount of occasions I've almost been hit by these ignorant cretins is getting ridiculous now.
 
Serj said:
Never a more false word spoken! Nonsense.

What do you mean nonsense?
If you never go above the speed limit then you'd never have the need to sam your brakes on when you saw a camera...because you know you wouldn't be speeding.
Seemed quite straight forward to me.

14 years driving and I'm yet to get a single point on my license - and no, funnily enough I don't "drive like an old woman".
It's really not difficult to be observent.
 
jimblowscash said:
true but how satisfying blowing the thing up.....
i see loads of cameras done by putting two van tires over the top of the camera, and then setting light to them, theyu cook up quite well, plus there was a spate of people cutting them down with gas tortches..... good on em i say

:rolleyes:

I don't see what's the problem is with speed cameras? If you go by the speed limit then there is nothing to worry about.
 
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