Speeding - Notice of Intended Prosecution

mjt · 10 Jan 2015 at 17:50

PMKeates said:
The police are surprisingly poor at finding unlicensed drivers!

snips86x · 10 Jan 2015 at 17:51

PMKeates said:
The police are surprisingly poor at finding unlicensed drivers!

Haha!! I can believe that

Rackerz · 10 Jan 2015 at 17:56

Do you think you were speeding at the location the letter describes?

FlapR · 10 Jan 2015 at 18:01

Rackerz said:
Do you think you were speeding at the location the letter describes?

I was driving on that date at roughly that time. I do the same journey all the time though so have no idea how I could've been speeding, and the roads were busy as usual.

opstrat · 10 Jan 2015 at 18:01

found this on another forum. maybe totally coincidental.

Time for an update. A summary of what happened so far:

• 10/03/04 – received a NIP from Cheshire Constabulary for allegedly doing 58 in a temporary 50 ("road works") on M6 motorway. Alleged offence was on 29/02/04. Camera was SPECS.

• Didn't fill in form but wrote back politely saying it could have been myself or my partner driving and I don't keep a written log of who drives on which day. Politely said I had done everything in my power to exercise due diligence. Requested photographs.

• 31/03/04 – photos arrived but just showed number plate and nothing else as alleged offence happened during the middle of the night. Wrote back reiterating that I still couldn't identify the driver.

• 22/04/04 – Manager of Central Ticket Office at Cheshire Constabulary wrote back saying the file has been referred to PC xxxx "who will consider whether the matter will be proceeded with under Section 172 of RTA 1988, for failing to furnish the Police with driver information."

Have heard nothing more since.

At the end of August it will be six months since date of alleged offence. Do they have between now and then to prosecute?

If anyone else has any similar dealings with Cheshire Police, I hope these details of my experience will be of some use.

Cheshire are operating the SPECS scameras on the notorious M6 Thelwall Viaduct roadworks – they are catching thousands because the 40mph zone continues unnecessarily on a normal stretch of both carriageways for a long way after you have cleared the roadworks. (I say unnecessarily, but of course it is necessary if you want to make as much cash as possible.)

snapdragon69 · 10 Jan 2015 at 18:02

Phone them up and say you don't own a car.

MagicBoy · 10 Jan 2015 at 18:02

Rackerz said:
Do you think you were speeding at the location the letter describes?

Did you read the OP? :eek:

FlapR said:
- The date and time given for the speeding offence makes sense and I was driving the car at the time.

cjgardens · 10 Jan 2015 at 18:03

Would you of passed more than one average speed check camera at that point?

Best thing to do is give them a ring. Will soon clear it up.

FlapR · 10 Jan 2015 at 18:05

Cheers opstrat. I'm mainly confused about the letter being addressed to myself and not the registered owner(my dad), as I have no idea how they could identify it as being me.

I'll ring the Central Ticket Office number at the bottom of the letter when they open on Monday and see what they say. I'm assuming its all official but I'll just be wary as I proceed.

Boycey0211 · 10 Jan 2015 at 18:14

hmmm bit of digging shows this:

https://courttribunalfinder.service...eyside-central-payment-and-enforcement-centre

not certain but I would assume thats where it would have to be sent?

The postcode on that form is for a residential strret address, and the phone number is unlisted too which I'd expect to get some hits if it was genuine

Jono8 · 10 Jan 2015 at 18:17

It is odd that it has your name on it if your name is no where on the registration document

bainbridge · 10 Jan 2015 at 18:53

Technology is always moving forward, for all we know they have crystal clear images of a young man driving and after cross-referencing the databases they're levelling their accusation at the person they think committed the offence.

cjgardens · 10 Jan 2015 at 19:13

Maybe your dad give you a christmas present and put the car in your name?

Burnsy2023 · 10 Jan 2015 at 19:25

bainbridge said:
Technology is always moving forward, for all we know they have crystal clear images of a young man driving and after cross-referencing the databases they're levelling their accusation at the person they think committed the offence.

Why do that when the RK has a legal obligation to identify the driver under 172 RTA?

leigh_boy said:
a 3 day turn around is very quick as well, normally 2 weeks ish. and come from the police.

It's usually done ASAP to prevent issues under the 14 day NIP rule, so 3 days sounds reasonable.

I'd bet money it was legit.

Kenai · 10 Jan 2015 at 19:28

If you have your doubts, it may be more sensible to find the number for the ticket office online from a verified source. If it did turn out to be a scam then calling the number on the bottom of the letter would be potentially a very bad thing to do

Burnsy2023 · 10 Jan 2015 at 19:30

Kenai said:
If you have your doubts, it may be more sensible to find the number for the ticket office online from a verified source. If it did turn out to be a scam then calling the number on the bottom of the letter would be potentially a very bad thing to do

If you wanted to find a legit number, call 01244 350 000 and get the central switchboard to put you through.

FlapR · 10 Jan 2015 at 20:00

Jono8 said:
It is odd that it has your name on it if your name is no where on the registration document

Yeah that's the part I'm really confused about.

bainbridge said:
Technology is always moving forward, for all we know they have crystal clear images of a young man driving and after cross-referencing the databases they're levelling their accusation at the person they think committed the offence.

That's partly what I was thinking. 3 of us are insured to drive the car, my mum and dad are both in their 50s and I'm 25.

cjgardens said:
Maybe your dad give you a christmas present and put the car in your name?

The cars 3 years old and worth around £35k with the milage it's done at the moment so I'd hope not

. No way I'd accept it.

Kenai said:
If you have your doubts, it may be more sensible to find the number for the ticket office online from a verified source. If it did turn out to be a scam then calling the number on the bottom of the letter would be potentially a very bad thing to do

Burnsy2023 said:
If you wanted to find a legit number, call 01244 350 000 and get the central switchboard to put you through.

The number at the bottom of the page is local to my parents but i'll have a look around.

MrViper · 10 Jan 2015 at 21:45

the po box seems a bit suspect

andi · 10 Jan 2015 at 22:57

Looks legit to me. Google suggests that's the correct office for the CTO.

Can't explain why it came to you though, is the car definitely in your parent's name?

MuvverRussia · 10 Jan 2015 at 23:12

Looks kosher to me. Weird one why it's not gone to the RK though. Worth giving them a call and asking them this.