Split Air con

[CapitalOne]

Hey sub-cool buddies! Didn’t we do the right thing

I’ve donated all but one (just in case!) of our portables to others.

 

[fobose]

Haha hell yeah

 

[soundb0y]

Ohhhh yeah.

Just had to pretend I've got a bit of work for 20 minutes as an excuse to leave a bbq and sit in some lovely 16deg for a bit as I was sure I was going to melt.

 

[happy_2008]

Hey sub-cool buddies! Didn’t we do the right thing

I’ve donated all but one (just in case!) of our portables to others.

 

[throwaway4372]

Emailed for a couple of quotes for split aircon (bedroom+living room). One didn't reply, one replied with £5k.
Alternative is BOXT for £2k which is living room only.

Is this a reasonable representation of what these things cost or has something gone wrong somewhere?

 

[happy_2008]

Emailed for a couple of quotes for split aircon (bedroom+living room). One didn't reply, one replied with £5k.
Alternative is BOXT for £2k which is living room only.

Is this a reasonable representation of what these things cost or has something gone wrong somewhere?

Really depends on the property and how much cabling is required but i paid less than £5k for 2 units downstairs and a loft unit that covers 3 bedrooms.

 

[Tom_ed1987]

Emailed for a couple of quotes for split aircon (bedroom+living room). One didn't reply, one replied with £5k.
Alternative is BOXT for £2k which is living room only.

Is this a reasonable representation of what these things cost or has something gone wrong somewhere?

Check the prices of the units themselves on https://www.saturnsales.co.uk/

Above that + installer margin & its typical costs for trade-related stuff really - drilling holes, conduit, wiring etc which depends on how complex your install is but you should be able to estimate. Add a bit of £££ on for the 'specialist' commissioning of the AC & you should end up with a good ballpark. I'd suggest £5k is high.

 

[Ezah]

Ours were 1300-1500 each for LG units installed on 1st floor bedrooms with the outdoor units on the ground floor below one, and around a corner for another with cabling hidden in a fake downpipe.

 

[andy_mk3]

BESA calls in HSE over Appliances Direct’s sales of propane AC units

Appliance Direct boss hits back at BESA’s DIY claims

Sales of R290 splits to DIYers is “irresponsible”

Looks like all those units have been pulled from their website.

 

[Tom_ed1987]

BESA calls in HSE over Appliances Direct’s sales of propane AC units

Appliance Direct boss hits back at BESA’s DIY claims

Sales of R290 splits to DIYers is “irresponsible”

Looks like all those units have been pulled from their website.

All the far more common 'easy fit' R32 systems remain for sale, and from a DIY Installers point of view there is no practical difference in installation between R32/r290, only a ticking of the 'i promise to have this professionally installed' box during purchase

 

[norm]

All the far more common 'easy fit' R32 systems remain for sale, and from a DIY Installers point of view there is no practical difference in installation between R32/r290, only a ticking of the 'i promise to have this professionally installed' box during purchase

Well one major difference

R32 falls into the “lower flammability” or Class 2L "mildly flammable" category. Class 2L refrigerants present the lowest risk of the 3 flammable categories and are defined by having a burning velocity of less than 10 cm per second.

Whilst Propane is highly flammable.

 

[robj20]

Anyone from Manchester or the NW, any links to decent installers.

 

[DRneocortez]

Northwest air conditioning, not used them myself but was quoted £1200 ish for a single room which seemed pretty reasonable.

 

[bazzabear]

The last couple of days have made me get my finger out and contact a few companies to see if I can get some surveys and quotes.

Based largely on what I've read in this thread, my initial plan is a wall unit in the lounge and a loft unit with ducts to two bedrooms and the home office.

I'm hoping that by going with a loft unit, the drainage pipes will all be down-flowing, so no pumps needed - that was one big tip I got from this thread! It will also avoid the issue that both of the bedrooms involved have fitted wardrobes against the obvious wall you'd use, which would get in the way rather.

With a single unit ducted to three rooms like that, is it possible to have variable output to the rooms? It would be sufficient if I can just have it not to all three rooms. I presume variable temperature is less likely to be possible.

Anyone want to place bets on what sort of quotes I'll get back?

 

[RJC]

The last couple of days have made me get my finger out and contact a few companies to see if I can get some surveys and quotes.

Based largely on what I've read in this thread, my initial plan is a wall unit in the lounge and a loft unit with ducts to two bedrooms and the home office.

I'm hoping that by going with a loft unit, the drainage pipes will all be down-flowing, so no pumps needed - that was one big tip I got from this thread! It will also avoid the issue that both of the bedrooms involved have fitted wardrobes against the obvious wall you'd use, which would get in the way rather.

With a single unit ducted to three rooms like that, is it possible to have variable output to the rooms? It would be sufficient if I can just have it not to all three rooms. I presume variable temperature is less likely to be possible.

Anyone want to place bets on what sort of quotes I'll get back?

If you can get away without a condensate pump then all good

You would not be able to vary the output to the rooms - Only way would be a control system and add dampers to the duct work going to those rooms, this would be expensive and bespoke.

 

[bazzabear]

Cheers.

I don't think having all three rooms the same will be such a big issue - it will just feel a little wasteful. During the night we'll be cooling the office unnecessarily, and during the day, the bedrooms.

 

[robj20]

Cheers.

I don't think having all three rooms the same will be such a big issue - it will just feel a little wasteful. During the night we'll be cooling the office unnecessarily, and during the day, the bedrooms.

You could easily fit manual shutters to each room.

 

[robj20]

Northwest air conditioning, not used them myself but was quoted £1200 ish for a single room which seemed pretty reasonable.

Thanks, I'll add them to the list.

 

[kindai]

Anyone for suggestions for west mids companies, ive been putting this off year after year and decided enough is enough.

 

[Teknobry]

Anyone from Manchester or the NW, any links to decent installers.

I can recommend Ryan who owns https://domesticair.co.uk/
https://www.facebook.com/Domesticairconditioning

I got a few quotes from different places but it was a case of 'what's your room sizes...here's your price options'. When I asked about the differences between the different priced units I didn't get a proper answer.

This guy though actually came round, measured up, discussed where the best locations were for the indoor units would be, where I could/couldn't have the outside one fitted etc. Talked through the different models available and prices.
In the end I went with 2x2500w panasonic units (one for each bedroom) and a 5kw unit for the open plan living area.

He came back in a short space of time when I realised that due to being a light sleeper the 'silent' pump wasn't anywhere near silent enough for me and extended the piping so it would be housed in the loft rather than in the unit in the bedroom.

Total cost was £3250 fitted.

Just realised I sound like a shill but I had no recommendations to go off when trying to find a company so after being uncertain with the others that quoted I'm definitely glad I went with this guy.