SSD failed after 2 weeks?????

Soulreaver106 · 11 Nov 2014 at 16:59

Hi all,

I have just finished building my first gaming machine for many years and thought i would try out an SSD.

I installed a Crucial MX100 256gb, it has been working superbly until about an hour ago when it appears to have died......... this was during a game of Advanced Warfare????

Surely this isn't normal, i know they are meant to be 'fickle' but hey 2 weeks?

Do you think i should return to overclockers for testing or something?

wazza300 · 11 Nov 2014 at 17:01

how you know its dead? a bad crash can stop it from being detected in the bios

leave it unplugged from power/sata/molex for a while,then try

Soulreaver106 · 11 Nov 2014 at 17:02

Hi There,

I just made an assumption, i will do as you have suggested and see how it goes,

Cheers for your prompt reply mate appreciated

Dervious · 11 Nov 2014 at 21:00

wazza300 said:
how you know its dead? a bad crash can stop it from being detected in the bios

leave it unplugged from power/sata/molex for a while,then try

I still don't get this theory, and I`ve never had a bad crash cause an SSD to be not detected in the BIOS.

Power off at the mains for 10 seconds (maybe a little longer if you have a high wattage power supply) should be enough.

Sin_Chase · 11 Nov 2014 at 21:26

wazza300 said:
how you know its dead? a bad crash can stop it from being detected in the bios

leave it unplugged from power/sata/molex for a while,then try

Eh?!

BIOS is OS independent. I've never had nor heard of a drive disappearing from the BIOS outside of a hardware fault with the drive itself or the board it's plugged into.

Dervious · 11 Nov 2014 at 21:30

Sin_Chase said:
Eh?!

BIOS is OS independent. I've never had nor heard of a drive disappearing from the BIOS outside of a hardware fault with the drive itself or the board it's plugged into.

Precisely.

And the drive can't "remember" the crash, once power is removed. Yes, power can be sustained beyond the point at which the system goes off, but only for a few seconds. OK, 20 seconds max.

wazza300 · 11 Nov 2014 at 21:32

I've known it to happen,could be something to do with the drive entering freeze state,but on odd occasions after a bad PC crash upon reboot I've had drive detection issues,another reboot cured it

Dervious · 11 Nov 2014 at 22:06

wazza300 said:
I've known it to happen,could be something to do with the drive entering freeze state,but on odd occasions after a bad PC crash upon reboot I've had drive detection issues,another reboot cured it

SSDs are "frozen" by default, if that's the freeze state you are referring to. That should not prevent the SSD being recognised by the BIOS.

A crash might cause the system to experience any number of issues (maybe even the SSD not being recognised by the BIOS), but powering off/on should solve any such problem, unless there is a genuine hardware issue.

Puppetmaster · 11 Nov 2014 at 23:39

I had a crucial C300 stop showing up in the bios after I had to pull the plug on my pc (small water leak). Left it plugged in with power not data for around 6 days. Did a restart one day and it detected again.

Dervious · 11 Nov 2014 at 23:42

Puppetmaster said:
I had a crucial C300 stop showing up in the bios after I had to pull the plug on my pc (small water leak). Left it plugged in with power not data for around 6 days. Did a restart one day and it detected again.

The problem must have evaporated.

opethdisciple · 12 Nov 2014 at 00:19

Dervious said:
I still don't get this theory, and I`ve never had a bad crash cause an SSD to be not detected in the BIOS.

Power off at the mains for 10 seconds (maybe a little longer if you have a high wattage power supply) should be enough.

I have.

100% stable SSD before and now after. However Dead Rising 3, was causing my PC to crash. Upon boot no SSD visible in BIOS. Scared the life out of me. Suffice to say, since I stopped playing Dead Rising 3, no such issues.

Soulreaver106 · 12 Nov 2014 at 08:52

Hi all,

I did as suggested and removed the power and SATA from the drive and left it overnight.
Reconnected this morning, booted up and hey presto it was in the bios again

Happy Days

Cheers all

Dervious · 12 Nov 2014 at 18:13

Can anyone explain what causes this ?

Why would an SSD need to be powered down for an extended period of time to "recover" from a crash ?

wazza300 · 12 Nov 2014 at 18:19

it borks the bios detection of the drive,the bad crash does

same thing as a cold bootup

HazardO · 12 Nov 2014 at 18:23

Dervious said:
Can anyone explain what causes this ?

Why would an SSD need to be powered down for an extended period of time to "recover" from a crash ?

It doesn't.

With no power it's not doing anything. It's likely that a hard power cycle could improve things (PSU switched off for 10secs or PSU power cable removed), but there should be no difference between 10secs and a year.

The only thing that might change on an unpowered SSD over a period of time is ambient temp or moisture.

Dervious · 12 Nov 2014 at 18:53

HazardO said:
It doesn't.

With no power it's not doing anything. It's likely that a hard power cycle could improve things (PSU switched off for 10secs or PSU power cable removed), but there should be no difference between 10secs and a year.

I understand that, and I understand that an SSD could fail to be detected after a crash, but surely a power cycle is all that's required, not unplugging the SSD itself from the PC.