SSD worth it?

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I will be upgrading my system soon but I'm not to sure if I should buy I SSD?
I was thinking of using it for windows 7 plus a couple of games, but still the prices put me off :(
I've currently been looking at the Intel X25-M Mainstream 80GB 2.5" SATA-II Solid State Hard Drive, but I'm not sure if it's worth it?

Do you think I should buy a SSD or use the money elsewhere?

Thanks
Sam
 
Well, it completely depends.
I think the upgrade has been well worth it, but I had enough spare cash to treat myself.

The price/performance ratio isn't magnificent, but it's definitely an obvious improvement in overall system speed and loading times :)

I got a 60GB OCZ Solid2, which is large enough for Win7, the usual office suite and apps, and 5 large Steam games together with a bunch of small indie games. Any other computer I use now annoys me with hideous load times :p
 
I picked up the OCZ Vertex LE 100GB (a drive faster than the X25-M) the other week and it has certainly improved the performance of my the computer, though at £300 I very much expected it to. I came from a WD Raptor 150GB (10,000RPM), which was very noisy and not a great performer. Anyway, the SSD is noticeably faster at booting up and logging in (immediately usable after booting to the desktop); it's also dramatically faster at installing applications (Office, iTunes, etc). However, I would have to say that it's still worth holding off if you have any regard towards value.

Just remember, all you're getting is slightly quicker load times and improved responsiveness. You can't fit many games on them. You don't get any increase in framerates. They don't transform your computer and a non-tech person wouldn't even notice the difference. The technology will improve and prices will drop but until then a decent performing HDD will do you fine.
 
I have 2 Intels in raid 0 and 11 scsi3 15K's in various raid.

If I were you IMO I would buy 2 F3 Samsung 1TB cost about £110 they will be very fast for everything you do very good value with plenty of space until SSD become more mainstream price wise. On writes they will beat the Intels. They are at the minute the best solution to near SSD speeds price wise, but they will give you an awesome amount of capacity too.
 
I have 2 Intels in raid 0 and 11 scsi3 15K's in various raid.

If I were you IMO I would buy 2 F3 Samsung 1TB cost about £110 they will be very fast for everything you do very good value with plenty of space until SSD become more mainstream price wise. On writes they will beat the Intels. They are at the minute the best solution to near SSD speeds price wise, but they will give you an awesome amount of capacity too.

F3's aren't even remotely close to the speed of SSD's, sequential writes, maybe, but sequential reads and writes are the single least common situation for hard drives/systems to be in.

Sequential speeds aren't even useful for game loading or installing, that will largely be random reads/writes, sequential speeds generally only crop up when unrar'ing large files, or moving large files around, two things you generally avoid on SSD's anyway. In terms of small random read and writes, which is the majority of what a PC does when loading apps, games, booting and installing programs, a SSD is in the realm of 20-50x faster with immensely higher IOPs in all situations which is immensely useful when multitasking.

A random 4kb read on a F3 will be around 0.3-0.5mb's, a cheaper Indilinx drive will offer somewhere between 20-30mb/s for the same type of reads and those are the situations where the system hangs, or slows down, you're transfering a file to another drive and open up photoshop or firefox and it hangs and takes ages to sort it out, on a SSD its instant.

But people need to realise, you'll gain fairly little in terms of game loading, because the CPu and GPU do a lot of work uncompressing data and sorting things out, though some games will load noticeably faster.

Theres fairly little need to have a massive number of games on your SSD, most won't show any difference in loading times between the OS being on an SSD and games being on it, or the games being installed to an el cheapo massive drive.

LIkewise people can show a massive difference between the £300 and £100 ssd, in benchmarks, in real world usage you could barely tell the difference. any half decent ssd will give you the "instant" feel to app loading, stop the system dragging to a halt when multitasking, sorting out most things. You can install a few hdd hog games on your SSD, the few games that are better on an SSD or have a huge amount of loading(some MMO's) and stick the rest of your games on a secondary drive.

Its well worth the cost.
 
gotta agree with the above, no mechanical setup will come close to a good SSD in my view, i find steam games load a bit quicker, and maps for example on left4dead and battlefield will load a lot quicker
 
Main difference with SSD is you click the launch button and the program window appears, if you want to click 5 buttons for 5 programs all at once then they will all load by the time you finish clicking.
I dont think its needed unless you find you need to do that quite often, Ive not found it essential for any game yet but on multi tasking stuff its a big difference.

I think a lot of memory and a ram drive might also work or something like that but with more hassle. Or a esata flash drive might be better then anything really expensive
 
F3's aren't even remotely close to the speed of SSD's, sequential writes, maybe, but sequential reads and writes are the single least common situation for hard drives/systems to be in.

Sequential speeds aren't even useful for game loading or installing, that will largely be random reads/writes, sequential speeds generally only crop up when unrar'ing large files, or moving large files around, two things you generally avoid on SSD's anyway. In terms of small random read and writes, which is the majority of what a PC does when loading apps, games, booting and installing programs, a SSD is in the realm of 20-50x faster with immensely higher IOPs in all situations which is immensely useful when multitasking.

A random 4kb read on a F3 will be around 0.3-0.5mb's, a cheaper Indilinx drive will offer somewhere between 20-30mb/s for the same type of reads and those are the situations where the system hangs, or slows down, you're transfering a file to another drive and open up photoshop or firefox and it hangs and takes ages to sort it out, on a SSD its instant.

But people need to realise, you'll gain fairly little in terms of game loading, because the CPu and GPU do a lot of work uncompressing data and sorting things out, though some games will load noticeably faster.

Theres fairly little need to have a massive number of games on your SSD, most won't show any difference in loading times between the OS being on an SSD and games being on it, or the games being installed to an el cheapo massive drive.

LIkewise people can show a massive difference between the £300 and £100 ssd, in benchmarks, in real world usage you could barely tell the difference. any half decent ssd will give you the "instant" feel to app loading, stop the system dragging to a halt when multitasking, sorting out most things. You can install a few hdd hog games on your SSD, the few games that are better on an SSD or have a huge amount of loading(some MMO's) and stick the rest of your games on a secondary drive.

Its well worth the cost.

pretty much sums it up although if you don't have the money to treat yourself (as in not just "have" the money for it) then I would possibly hold off. I had the money to treat myself last year and was a bit apprehensive in April 2009 but decided to buy one anyway because I wasn't sure the prices would come down soon anyway (120GB vertex) and absolutely love the difference. I was still shocked at the amount of money I spent on it but I'm glad I did now as they haven't barely changed in price at all since last year and for the most part have been even more expensive.
 
I bought one last year & it immediately felt like an upgrade in terms of system performance. I have since bought another one for a new build. If you're going to be using windows7 then all the better with the added support for TRIM now.

I think the thing to consider is how much active disk space you can operate within. I have a 60gb SSD and store 4 frequently played steam games, warcraft, and 4-5 system apps I frequently use which from your OP is what you intend. so figure out what you can work with and then see how you feel about affording it.

Seems faster than my 2x74gb Raptors in RAID0 plus quiet & cool and use less power. The price is hard to swallow that can be agreed, but I had no problems doing it again from my first experience.

As mentioned above - other peoples / work pc's will feel dog slow compared to yours.
 
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