St. Patricks Day vs St. Georges Day - in England

Ace Modder said:
Hi guys.

I noticed that this weekend there were a lot of celebrations and parties for St. Patricks day.

I was in Liverpool and there were loads of people dressed up and out on the beers for it - mostly English people I will add.
I also noticed, via social media, a number of pubs back in my home city of Wolverhampton had similiar celebrations with pubs getting decorated for it, same goes for Stoke, where I live now.

Why do we not get this level of "celebration" for St. Georges Day in England?

I know for a few years there has been some "Daily Mail" stigma around "racism" for people who enjoys celebrating the St. of England. Is that the major factor? It just baffles me.
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Because the British establishment hates the English people so they hate allowing us any celebrations.

But anyone elses culture they go all out.
 
Ace Modder said:
Not that I'm religious in any way, shape or form. But George (as part of the legend) was a Christian, and Christianity did shape England back in early days, he was meant to be part of the Roman army, so it wasn't the 14th Century at all I'm afraid if I memory from school serves me right.
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Wasn't he a Roman centurion who was killed for helping Christians, in Germany if I remember and definitely wasn't from these parts.
 
George is a rubbish national saint, not even slightly local. Patrick was a Briton who physically went to Ireland and successfully indoctrinated the locals with Christianity. Now that's something to get blind drunk about.
 
Blackjack Davy said:
George is not even a real saint he's been demoted, un-sainted by the RC church its just a retelling of the greek Perseus and the gorgon myth


Used to be till about two centuries ago its been eroded by general english-ness in wales 150 years ago the majority were welsh speakers today its less than a quarter and there are no monoglots its all part of a cultural erosion process
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Fun fact: Cornwall invaded England and nearly took London in the 15th century.
 
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St patricks day has become one those global ****-up / party days...like Halloween.

I'm from Ireland and my partner and I were in Key west a couple of years back on (but not because of) St patricks day. I think we were literally the only two people downtown that weren't wearing green, the vibe was MUCH greater that what we'd see at home.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
because St George came from Syria or somewhere similar and never even visited England so a bit pointless.
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Turkey I believe he was from, according the the legends - and his patriotism I believe was based on the Roman's persecuting him for refusing to renounce Christianity.
I believe this is why St George was made the national Saint of many Christian countries, more his "service" to Christianity than to the actual country in question.

I'm sure he is the Saint for between 5 and 10 countries, not just England. He is chosen for his "importance" to the history that shaped a country in the early modern day history. I guess he didn't need to physcially be in England to help shape it's history, the stories of his heroism and self-less acts are the major factor which did affect England I guess.

Like I stated already I don't believe in Religion myself, at least in there is a GOD, but I don't have any issues with anybody who does have faith, everybody is free to have their own opinions and values and beliefs. Jesus I believe was a person who has some level of truth behind the symbolism of what he represents - no point arguing if he was the "son of god" or a "trickster" as some people believe, he did change the world as it was, and formed a club which evolved into a major religion even if it started out not quite Christianity.
 
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