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[TW]Fox;18036599 said:
Nah, cant be bothered to argue with the 'I bought a 3 litre 220bhp car but find £160 more on tyres unaffordable' crew, it'll turn into a stupid fight and there really is no point. Buy whatever tyres you want.
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some people find an extra £160 on top of the £240 they've just spent a lot of money especially when discs and pads all round are also need :). It maybe classed as a performance car, but I treat it as a comfy cruiser.....it's no race car! The tyres so far have met my expectations and the reviews i had from other users.
 
[TW]Fox;18036599 said:
Nah, cant be bothered to argue with the 'I bought a 3 litre 220bhp car but find £160 more on tyres unaffordable' crew, it'll turn into a stupid fight and there really is no point. Buy whatever tyres you want.
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Fox, would you be willing to explain a little further for me please? I'm not too fussed about performance at high speeds, but don't want to skimp in terms of safety on tyre performance in normal use (i.e. 0-70/80mph). It's purely for normal road use, and, where safe, "spirited" driving.
 
I paid £105 per corner for 18" Conti Sport Contact 3s.. Hardly extortionate really when some dodgy sizes of 15/16" tyre can sometimes cost almost that much!
 
Makhaira said:
Fox, would you be willing to explain a little further for me please? I'm not too fussed about performance at high speeds, but don't want to skimp in terms of safety on tyre performance in normal use (i.e. 0-70/80mph). It's purely for normal road use, and, where safe, "spirited" driving.
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I will do it for him.

Falken 452 is a budget performance tyre, its basically an OK all rounder, but it is no master, its the kind of tyre kids go fitting to Saxo's or people who buy performance cars but then fit cheap rubber.

For me I completely agree with Fox if your buying a performance car its normally because you want it to perform to the best of its abilities in both wet and dry but also give great feedback to the driver.

Now with the Falken 452 you will actually get pretty good feedback due to their quite stiff sidewalls, dry performance is average as is wet performance.

But surely if your the owner of a performance car, then that must be because you like going out for the odd blast, tearing up some back roads and having some real fun or just hurtling around some roundabouts.

Now some of the best performance summer tyres will give you an improvement in the dry, probably small but where big difference can come is wet performance and braking distances.

A couple of the best all round tyres is the Conti CS3 and Michelin PS3, they give great dry performance but supreme wet performance ability. Another consideration is the Goodyear F1 Assymetric or the Hankook EVO tyre are also excellent.

There are then extreme dry/track type tyres which generally offer un-matched braking, driver feedback and dry grip ability on very high performance cars, but are not quite so grippy in wet conditions due to less tread depth and less grooves.

Though there is a new tyre coming, the Michelin Pilot Super Sport which could be a truely amazing tyre, guess we will see early next year but expect it to be expensive.
 
Gibbo said:
Falken 452 is a budget performance tyre, its basically an OK all rounder, but it is no master, its the kind of tyre kids go fitting to Saxo's or people who buy performance cars but then fit cheap rubber.
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But they are still an absolute far cry from the nasty cheap Chinese rubber many people chuck on their cars because they are cheap and the tread pattern looked good...

People are always quick to point out that the CS3s and PS2s of the world are superior tyres, nobody with half a brain cell is going to try and argue against that, but they almost always forget that people could do so, so much worse when it comes to tyres.

That's why I went with Kumhos for mine. I know that they aren't the best tyres in the world, but I could do worse, and there is a whole £250 PER CORNER difference between the KU31s and the PS2s in the size I want to run.
 
CS3's might be my next tyre, especially if they are still on special offer at Blackcircles :D

I've only used Falken FK-452s for nearly 3 years now and every year I spend the summer thinking they are awesome, slip around like a lard coated bannana skin for the worst of the winter weather and then only remember how good they were when the sun was shining when it comes to buying new tyres again!
 
Joshy said:
there is a whole £250 PER CORNER difference between the KU31s and the PS2s in the size I want to run.
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PS2's are the most ridiculously stupidly priced tyres in the universe, every other high end tyre is cheaper.

I'm amazed the Kumho is £250 a corner cheaper, mind. What size is that?
 
275/40/17 :cool:.

Think I paid £70 a corner for the KU31s. PS2s were £330 or something.

To be fair it is my fault for wanting to run the most awkward sized tyres in the world. The majority of tyre places I contacted didn't believe that you could get 17s that wide :D.
 
[TW]Fox;18037492 said:
That is the most stupid tyre size in the entire universe :p
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I wanted to fit a standard looking set of wheels that would clear the big brakes I planned on fitting. UK Supra wheels are absoultely perfect but they are relatively wide on the rear. They originally come with 255/40/17 rubber but it is a bit of a stretch, so I was looking at 265+, then I thought I'd might as well go the whole hog and fit 275s :).

Of course Mark now has me looking at Jags so it's been a bit of a pointless exercise. I doubt they'll even get fitted! :p
 
[TW]Fox;18037584 said:
Does it? I can't see any mention of the tyres fitted, and it was filmed in 2004 which was in the days before anyone in the UK had ever mentioned the word 'winter tyre' :D
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Yeah that video was uploaded by a friend. Although the video was filmed by a current S2K member. These tyres have been popular in the US for years you can't blame him mind living in Scotland.
 
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