Star Swarm - Oxide bench thread

Rasch · 30 Jan 2014 at 21:44

Its not a realbench just a showcase for Mantle.under mantle it will be 100% gpu use and it will be smooth

Ian Evey · 30 Jan 2014 at 21:45

Anyone elses Steam not logging you in ?

Wanted to try this swarm.

Kaapstad · 30 Jan 2014 at 21:45

Gregster said:
I am sure Mantle will have it running nice

Not on my rig it won't

No Quadfire support.

ICDP · 30 Jan 2014 at 21:47

Lol, it's amazing to see people attempt to remove this as a valid test because, "it doesn't speed up with Mantle, it slows down DX". :rolleyes:

Gregster · 30 Jan 2014 at 22:22

ICDP said:
Lol, it's amazing to see people attempt to remove this as a valid test because, "it doesn't speed up with Mantle, it slows down DX".

I think if you run the test, you will see there is big differences between them and at the same settings, so results would be all over the place and no consistancy. I enjoy a good bench but need some consistancy for it to be valid.

My mistake, I thought this would be a good bench thread to give it some but at present, the GPU usage is so low, it doesn't give any consistancy.

Calneon · 30 Jan 2014 at 22:29

R9 290X 1100/1250
4770k @ 4.2Ghz

1st: 24FPS
2nd 28FPS
3rd 33FPS

Yah...

PhysicsMan94 · 30 Jan 2014 at 22:34

pgi947 said:
Well, I'm calling BS on this bench.

GPU utilisation is around 30%, my scores line up with both sides of the fence so presume both AMD and NV are getting poor usage on the DX bench. CPU usage is sitting around 40% too.

Whats the odds that when mantle is released it magically hits 99% GPU usage showing huge gains in the process?

That is almost certainly going to happen.

uksoldierboy · 30 Jan 2014 at 22:45

I'm out of benching this guys, far too inconsistent for my liking.

Will give mantle a try on it and see what difference it makes.

DamnedLife · 30 Jan 2014 at 22:46

You guys know that you can fix everyting in that test right?

Both Scenarios and Settings have CUSTOM preset .csv and .ini file so you can fix one preset and share among each other for the EXACT SAME test which is also consistent!

Let me propose this for a fixed PRESET that is consistent: Extreme Settings is a given. No need to change that.

But lets try to figure out how to customize the "Customized Scenario" into something repetitive.

Starting with no unit changes, camera getting stuck @ only one unit the whole time.

Second may be the FIXING camera movement and angle RANDOMNESS.

EDIT: I think I managed to fix random jump between units, now it is fixed on one unit for the whole test run. Therefore the biggest reason for FPS variance is kinda fixed and ppl should get similar results from consecutive runs. However camera still randomly moves
No FPS jumping arounf for different runs!

EDIT #2: I managed to get the camera fixed ALTOGETHER guys

NOTE: Skip the custom preset on my next post I changed that already!

DamnedLife · 30 Jan 2014 at 22:51

Skip this one Get this one: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=25762826&postcount=94

GUYS I think I'm on the right track!

So What I did is: The camera doesn't change to any unit but stay at the exact same unit during whole run, the camere MAY be still random (2 runs matche camera movement but help my find if it is yrue) but I think I'm close to figuring that one out too!!

MY SCENARIO CUSTOM .csv FILE! OPEN WITH NOTEPAD AND COPY PASTE

Command,Subject,Player Number,Start Time,Max Reps,Unit Rep Rate,Unit Spawn Rate (the time between units spawned into this squadron once it has materialized (in seconds)),X,Y,z
SpawnBackgroundObject,TheCosmos,,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
SpawnBackgroundObject,Planet,,0,1,1,0,0,-12000,-2300
SpawnBackgroundObject,PlanetAtmosphere,,0,1,1,0,0,-12000,-2300
SpawnBackgroundObject,StarSphere,,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
SpawnBackgroundObject,StarSphere,,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
SpawnBackgroundObject,StarSphere,,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
SpawnBackgroundObject,StarSphere,,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
SpawnBackgroundObject,StarSphere,,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
SpawnBackgroundObject,TheSuns,,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
CameraToUnit,,,0.1,1,0,0,0,0,0
CameraToRandomAngle,,,0.1,1,0,0,,,
CameraToRandomUnit,,,9999999,1,0,0,,,
SetGrids,,,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-0-0,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-1-0,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-2-0,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-3-0,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-4-0,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-5-0,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-6-0,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-7-0,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-0-1,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-1-1,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-2-1,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-3-1,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-4-1,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-5-1,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-6-1,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-7-1,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-0-0,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-1-0,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-2-0,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-3-0,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-4-0,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-5-0,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-6-0,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-7-0,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-0-1,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-1-1,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-2-1,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-3-1,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-4-1,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-5-1,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-6-1,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-7-1,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench BomberA1-0,0,0,24,100,0.2,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench BomberA1-1,0,0,24,100,0.2,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench BomberB1-0,1,0,8,200,0.2,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench BomberB1-1,1,0,8,200,0.2,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench CarrierA1-0,0,0,1,0,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench CarrierA1-1,0,0,1,0,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench CarrierB1-0,1,0,1,0,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench CarrierB1-1,1,0,1,0,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Stress00,0,1,250,12,0.01,,,
SpawnSquadron,Stress01,1,1,250,12,0.01,,,
SpawnSquadron,Stress02,1,1,250,12,0.01,,,
SpawnSquadron,Stress03,0,1,250,12,0.01,,,
SpawnSquadron,Stress10,0,1,250,12,0.01,,,
SpawnSquadron,Stress11,1,1,250,12,0.01,,,
SpawnSquadron,Stress12,1,1,250,12,0.01,,,
SpawnSquadron,Stress13,0,1,250,12,0.01,,,
ResetScenario,,,2700,99999999,,,,,

Finguz · 30 Jan 2014 at 22:53

Benchmark mode generates performance information – Since Star Swarm is a dynamic simulation rather than a canned demo, run it several times to see what Nitrous’ real-world gaming performance is on your machine

Taken from the description on the steam website

Mtom · 30 Jan 2014 at 22:55

Guys i found its best to run it in RTS mode.
In Attract mode two runs get me a 21 and a 41fps bench.
In RTS mode the camera is stationary.

DamnedLife · 30 Jan 2014 at 22:59

Yeah not canned BUT you can still get randomness out of the equation. AI can't be played with, but the rest is, and it can be fixed.

I believe randomness can be coped with following three lines in the script. These are changed values, it had 999999 in some of them to generate randomness. Some being fixed can help, still left one randomness 999999 value in there since it changed nothing (I think).

Those three lines:

CameraToUnit,,,0.1,1,0,0,0,0,0
CameraToRandomAngle,,,0.1,1,0,0,,,
CameraToRandomUnit,,,9999999,1,0,0,,,

DamnedLife · 30 Jan 2014 at 23:01

Try iterating with this as your ScenarioCustom.csv, so that we can figure the right values for getting consistent FPS results.

pgi947 · 30 Jan 2014 at 23:08

CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
Physical Cores: 4
Logical Cores: 8
Physical Memory: 8473137152
Allocatable Memory: 140737488224256
===========================================================

== Configuration ==========================================
API: DirectX
Scenario: ScenarioAttract.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 8.3 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Motion Blur Frame Time: 16
Motion Blur InterFrame Time: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
===========================================================

== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 120 Seconds
Total Frames: 9965

Average FPS: 83.02
Average Unit Count: 3625
Maximum Unit Count: 5327
Average Batches/MS: 805.47
Maximum Batches/MS: 1859.86
Average Batch Count: 10611
Maximum Batch Count: 45529
===========================================================

alex_123_fra · 30 Jan 2014 at 23:08

For what its worth, here is mine at 24/7 settings, sli enabled:

===========================================================
Oxide Games
Star Swarm Benchmark - ©2013
C:\Users\Alex\Documents\Star Swarm\Benchmark_14_01_30_2241.txt
Version 0.95
01/30/2014 22:41
===========================================================

== Hardware Configuration =================================
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780
CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz
Physical Cores: 6
Logical Cores: 12
Physical Memory: 17118453760
Allocatable Memory: 8796092891136
===========================================================

== Configuration ==========================================
API: DirectX
Scenario: ScenarioAttract.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Motion Blur Frame Time: 16
Motion Blur InterFrame Time: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
===========================================================

== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 120 Seconds
Total Frames: 3196

Average FPS: 26.63
Average Unit Count: 3831
Maximum Unit Count: 5370
Average Batches/MS: 1072.25
Maximum Batches/MS: 1518.76
Average Batch Count: 40109
Maximum Batch Count: 179302
===========================================================

DamnedLife · 30 Jan 2014 at 23:10

With my Custom Scenario.csv I got following results:

My first run

== Hardware Configuration =================================
GPU: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series
CPU: AuthenticAMD
AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor
Physical Cores: 4
Logical Cores: 8
Physical Memory: 17138696192
Allocatable Memory: 140737488224256
===========================================================

== Configuration ==========================================
API: DirectX
Scenario: ScenarioCustom.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Motion Blur Frame Time: 16
Motion Blur InterFrame Time: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
===========================================================

== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 120 Seconds
Total Frames: 2657

Average FPS: 22.12
Average Unit Count: 3789
Maximum Unit Count: 5428
Average Batches/MS: 698.26
Maximum Batches/MS: 864.89
Average Batch Count: 31978
Maximum Batch Count: 80928
===========================================================

My second run:

== Hardware Configuration =================================
GPU: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series
CPU: AuthenticAMD
AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor
Physical Cores: 4
Logical Cores: 8
Physical Memory: 17138696192
Allocatable Memory: 140737488224256
===========================================================

== Configuration ==========================================
API: DirectX
Scenario: ScenarioCustom.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Motion Blur Frame Time: 16
Motion Blur InterFrame Time: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
===========================================================

== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 120 Seconds
Total Frames: 2514

Average FPS: 20.94
Average Unit Count: 3774
Maximum Unit Count: 5500
Average Batches/MS: 692.81
Maximum Batches/MS: 882.91
Average Batch Count: 32950
Maximum Batch Count: 152014
===========================================================

My third run:

== Hardware Configuration =================================
GPU: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series
CPU: AuthenticAMD
AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor
Physical Cores: 4
Logical Cores: 8
Physical Memory: 17138696192
Allocatable Memory: 140737488224256
===========================================================

== Configuration ==========================================
API: DirectX
Scenario: ScenarioCustom.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Motion Blur Frame Time: 16
Motion Blur InterFrame Time: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
===========================================================

== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 120 Seconds
Total Frames: 2821

Average FPS: 23.51
Average Unit Count: 3855
Maximum Unit Count: 5649
Average Batches/MS: 694.67
Maximum Batches/MS: 868.34
Average Batch Count: 29809
Maximum Batch Count: 81175
===========================================================

TL;DR
1st
Average FPS: 22.12
Average Unit Count: 3789
Maximum Unit Count: 5428

2nd
Average FPS: 20.94
Average Unit Count: 3774
Maximum Unit Count: 5500

3rd
Average FPS: 23.51
Average Unit Count: 3855
Maximum Unit Count: 5649

DamnedLife · 30 Jan 2014 at 23:15

pgi947 said:
CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
Physical Cores: 4
Logical Cores: 8
Physical Memory: 8473137152
Allocatable Memory: 140737488224256
===========================================================

== Configuration ==========================================
API: DirectX
Scenario: ScenarioAttract.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 8.3 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Motion Blur Frame Time: 16
Motion Blur InterFrame Time: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
===========================================================

== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 120 Seconds
Total Frames: 9965

Average FPS: 83.02
Average Unit Count: 3625
Maximum Unit Count: 5327
Average Batches/MS: 805.47
Maximum Batches/MS: 1859.86
Average Batch Count: 10611
Maximum Batch Count: 45529
===========================================================

guys can you try my custom scenario .csv settings as your preset?

pgi947 · 30 Jan 2014 at 23:16

yeah sure just copy and paste your settings into note pad rename custom.csv?

DamnedLife · 30 Jan 2014 at 23:18

D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Star Swarm Benchmark\Assets
in here there is ScenarioCustom.csv file you can still preserve this copy&paste somewhere, then change the values in this file to:

Command,Subject,Player Number,Start Time,Max Reps,Unit Rep Rate,Unit Spawn Rate (the time between units spawned into this squadron once it has materialized (in seconds)),X,Y,z
SpawnBackgroundObject,TheCosmos,,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
SpawnBackgroundObject,Planet,,0,1,1,0,0,-12000,-2300
SpawnBackgroundObject,PlanetAtmosphere,,0,1,1,0,0,-12000,-2300
SpawnBackgroundObject,StarSphere,,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
SpawnBackgroundObject,StarSphere,,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
SpawnBackgroundObject,StarSphere,,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
SpawnBackgroundObject,StarSphere,,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
SpawnBackgroundObject,StarSphere,,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
SpawnBackgroundObject,TheSuns,,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
CameraToUnit,,,0.1,1,0,0,0,0,0
CameraToRandomAngle,,,0.1,1,0,0,,,
CameraToRandomUnit,,,9999999,1,0,0,,,
SetGrids,,,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-0-0,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-1-0,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-2-0,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-3-0,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-4-0,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-5-0,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-6-0,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-7-0,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-0-1,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-1-1,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-2-1,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-3-1,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-4-1,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-5-1,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-6-1,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterA1-7-1,0,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-0-0,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-1-0,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-2-0,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-3-0,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-4-0,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-5-0,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-6-0,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-7-0,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-0-1,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-1-1,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-2-1,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-3-1,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-4-1,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-5-1,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-6-1,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench FighterB1-7-1,1,0,3,12,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench BomberA1-0,0,0,24,100,0.2,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench BomberA1-1,0,0,24,100,0.2,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench BomberB1-0,1,0,8,200,0.2,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench BomberB1-1,1,0,8,200,0.2,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench CarrierA1-0,0,0,1,0,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench CarrierA1-1,0,0,1,0,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench CarrierB1-0,1,0,1,0,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Bench CarrierB1-1,1,0,1,0,0,,,
SpawnSquadron,Stress00,0,1,250,12,0.01,,,
SpawnSquadron,Stress01,1,1,250,12,0.01,,,
SpawnSquadron,Stress02,1,1,250,12,0.01,,,
SpawnSquadron,Stress03,0,1,250,12,0.01,,,
SpawnSquadron,Stress10,0,1,250,12,0.01,,,
SpawnSquadron,Stress11,1,1,250,12,0.01,,,
SpawnSquadron,Stress12,1,1,250,12,0.01,,,
SpawnSquadron,Stress13,0,1,250,12,0.01,,,
ResetScenario,,,2700,99999999,,,,,

And also do 3-4 runs and post your results

Do not forget to use Extreme settings for Custom Scenario, forgot to say it