Caporegime
Everything in moderation, cross-trainer and excercise bikes don't damage joints, I'm with you on contact sport though, I didn't play rugby in school, everyone I know that did broke something at least once.
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Everything in moderation, cross-trainer and excercise bikes don't damage joints, I'm with you on contact sport though, I didn't play rugby in school, everyone I know that did broke something at least once.
Literally just said that they do tax unhealthy food.
Imposing massive duty on unhealthy food is just daft, people are going to buy it whether it's cheap or not. It's like when they set minimum alcohol pricing - I don't buy any less because it's more expensive, I just get annoyed at the government of ********* trying to suck the joy out of life.
Actually I don't think large duties or minimum pricing on alcohol or cigarettes is going to stop binging at all, it's just another case of the government treating the population as a giant cash machine.
I mean I actually read some "anti drinking" tosspot saying "alcohol is too affordable" christ on a bike is that wrong. I remember paying nearly £4 for a pint of beer in a pub the other day, minimum wage is what? £6 an hour. A pint and a half for an hours work for minimum wage workers.
When I was 18 you could get 3 pints for an hours wage in a crap job. They should accept people are going to drink because it's nothing new, cheap alcohol has nothing to do with it - societal standards have everything to do with it. There's nothing wrong with going out and getting drunk - but people seem to have no self control now. We always had fights and things getting a bit messy around kickout time but not to the extent of today - it's all about peoples natural behaviour and attitude and not the alcohol fuelling it.
In some parts of the country it's almost acceptable to go out and act like a ****.
And it's the same with obesity, people put no value on food or diet. Britain isn't exactly renowned for food culture but today is shocking, we're basically turning into America where it's just seen as fuel and convenience is everything. That is what needs to change.
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Caporegime
Pretty sure they are referencing supermarket prices...
Soldato
Jesus H Christ. Another thread that is a (Not so)veiled poke at how fat people are the bane of existence. Do the people that keep posting these threads and coming up with their ever so humorous quips actually think they are being funny? Helpful? Informative? How about this.. Do you realise that YOU are actually part of the problem???
Soldato
Don't tell Captain Planet that, he's perfect and always right but can't be bothered to provide evidence that he is, so be careful
Care to actually discuss the topic (if you didn't read it, you can find links and opinion in the OP), or are you just here to moan at the people who are discussing it? What "problem" are "we" part of?
Soldato
The 'problem' imo is the lack of affordable good quality food to the average man/woman after they have paid the mortgage/rent, council/car/water taxes etc well you get my drift...
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sure lose weight then down the line there goes your gal bladder ohh and don't forget you get to have 6 months of pains and going to the hospital at least 4times a week only to be sent back home with painkillers(which don't work) then lets add to the pot if you happen to get a stone stuck in the common bile duct you get to have Acute pancreatitis attack too on top of that which is life threatening and then and only then do they decide yes now is the time to operate.
its not all roses on the other side.
ohh and i hope you got very elastic skin because after all is said and done you will be needing an operation to get that skin removed which the nhs don't provide.
So go for it lose weight but remember the risks they never do mention all the bad things that go wrong from losing weight.
Edit : ohh and did i forget to mention you also get to have jaundice which makes your skin go yellow and eyes too lots of fun to be had losing weight indeed.
its not all roses on the other side.
ohh and i hope you got very elastic skin because after all is said and done you will be needing an operation to get that skin removed which the nhs don't provide.
So go for it lose weight but remember the risks they never do mention all the bad things that go wrong from losing weight.
Edit : ohh and did i forget to mention you also get to have jaundice which makes your skin go yellow and eyes too lots of fun to be had losing weight indeed.
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Oh boo hoo! When I were a young sprite there were few overweight people around , and there certainly weren't any fat kids at school. To suggest others are the cause of the problem is like trying to renounce responsibility. Too many whiny fat people blaming their whiny fat ass on someone else. It makes my **** itch.
Soldato
At last, we're making progress.
Soldato
Apologies, I meant to say another thread that has descended into etc etc etc...
These threads ALL go the same way, Christ there are at least 2 threads on this forum that has a derogatory titles.. Or is Fatty/Fatties not considered derogatory? Just because a term doesn't have racial or sexual connotations does not mean it is any less derogatory! Is stating that all "Fatties" should be forced in a concentration camps, rounding them up and burning them for fuel, And that this scheme wont work because "Because the fat *******s will be too lazy to go, they'll sit at home with their ready meal and pop and get fatter" is in any way funny to anyone except a person of the same rationale?
You may thinks this sort of thing is a light hearted joke but, to someone that has problems with eating/emotional disorders, it could be the difference between walking down to friends/family/work etc and getting in the car. Yes I do understand that there are a great deal of people that do have the mentality of "I will eat what I want and when I want and who cares" but there are also a great deal of people that are overweight and are severely unhappy with it but struggle because of internal and external factors.
Soo I am sure there are people that are gonna say "Well why not do something about it?" Well a lot has to do with the mentality of others as much as it has with overweight people as this and the many other "Fatties are the devil" threads goes to show. I am sure that there will also be people that its just another excuse and say "ignore others and just lose weight" well it doesn't work like that in the same way as telling a drug addict to get clean or a manic depressive to cheer up.
People always see the negative in anything that they really have never had to deal with. I bet if you saw a overweight person walking down the street would you think "look at that fat ******" I bet he is on his way to buy a kebab, or to the pub or to buy a pack of cakes so lets humiliate them rather than "good for him, he has got out the house and is trying to get healthier and walking somewhere is a start". Or another example if you see someone that is overweight I bet most people assume that they have stuffed their face and got to that stage and are getting progressively worse rather than giving them the benefit of doubt that they could have lost 5 stone over the last few months and poking fun may cause a relapse. If people minded their own business rather than thought they had the god given right to point out and poke fun at other peoples flaws then the world would be a better place.
At the end of the day anything that can possibly help should be tried and if just 1 person benefits then it has worked for that person. Not all people that are overweight are on benefits and have never paid any tax so they have the right to have the same courtesy afforded to them as anyone else of any size, colour or religion.
These threads ALL go the same way, Christ there are at least 2 threads on this forum that has a derogatory titles.. Or is Fatty/Fatties not considered derogatory? Just because a term doesn't have racial or sexual connotations does not mean it is any less derogatory! Is stating that all "Fatties" should be forced in a concentration camps, rounding them up and burning them for fuel, And that this scheme wont work because "Because the fat *******s will be too lazy to go, they'll sit at home with their ready meal and pop and get fatter" is in any way funny to anyone except a person of the same rationale?
You may thinks this sort of thing is a light hearted joke but, to someone that has problems with eating/emotional disorders, it could be the difference between walking down to friends/family/work etc and getting in the car. Yes I do understand that there are a great deal of people that do have the mentality of "I will eat what I want and when I want and who cares" but there are also a great deal of people that are overweight and are severely unhappy with it but struggle because of internal and external factors.
Soo I am sure there are people that are gonna say "Well why not do something about it?" Well a lot has to do with the mentality of others as much as it has with overweight people as this and the many other "Fatties are the devil" threads goes to show. I am sure that there will also be people that its just another excuse and say "ignore others and just lose weight" well it doesn't work like that in the same way as telling a drug addict to get clean or a manic depressive to cheer up.
People always see the negative in anything that they really have never had to deal with. I bet if you saw a overweight person walking down the street would you think "look at that fat ******" I bet he is on his way to buy a kebab, or to the pub or to buy a pack of cakes so lets humiliate them rather than "good for him, he has got out the house and is trying to get healthier and walking somewhere is a start". Or another example if you see someone that is overweight I bet most people assume that they have stuffed their face and got to that stage and are getting progressively worse rather than giving them the benefit of doubt that they could have lost 5 stone over the last few months and poking fun may cause a relapse. If people minded their own business rather than thought they had the god given right to point out and poke fun at other peoples flaws then the world would be a better place.
At the end of the day anything that can possibly help should be tried and if just 1 person benefits then it has worked for that person. Not all people that are overweight are on benefits and have never paid any tax so they have the right to have the same courtesy afforded to them as anyone else of any size, colour or religion.
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As someone who was overweight, I have no sympathy for them. I was simply lazy/eat too much, I realised this as it only took me 4 months to lose 3 stone. Yes it was tough and it's not fair that some people can still be slim yet eat what ever they want. But life ins't fair and it shouldn't be used as an excuse.
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a whole 3 stone go you! ill raise you 20.
guess what snow flake not everyone is like you.
Edit: and on that note this thread aint worth my time.
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What a fantastic example of a human being you are..
Indeed.
By all means, be a gluttonous fat person, just pay your way. I work in a world where if I don't pass a fit test I can lose my job and being lazy and overweight is frowned upon. I feel this is a perfectly good ethos to apply to the real world. It is now socially unacceptable to smoke and smokers pay their way. Somewhere along the line it became socially acceptable to be obese, and they don't pay their way!
Well done, that's a great achievement.
Soldato
This is all about self control.
I am overweight and it is my fault.
In some ways I think classes could help, but it is further shunning responsibility.
I have lost weight (was obese), but have some way to go. I am not progressing quickly because of my own poor willpower.
I am overweight and it is my fault.
In some ways I think classes could help, but it is further shunning responsibility.
I have lost weight (was obese), but have some way to go. I am not progressing quickly because of my own poor willpower.
Soldato
LOL I suppose you want everyone to have blonde hair and blue eyes as well. maybe we should ask for a different user name for you how about Captain Little Tash???
You may "work in a world where if I don't pass a fit test I can lose my job and being lazy and overweight is frowned upon" and in the armed forces I can understand that but in what other occupation would that be acceptable(With acception to sports and fitness related occupations)? In what way does being overweight have any sort of impact on most types of work? So are you saying that someone that is overweight is less worthy as a human than someone who is in peak physical health? WOW... just wow!
As far as I am aware the Armed forces are there to protect the freedom people and civil liberties of the country that they are defending, to express themselves however they want. Not to judge them on a scale dependant on how physically fit they are.
You may work in a world where that is acceptable... But the rest of the 97.7% live in a world where judging someone by how they look is unacceptable.
maybe we should ask for a different user name for you how about Captain Little Tash??? You may "work in a world where if I don't pass a fit test I can lose my job and being lazy and overweight is frowned upon" and in the armed forces I can understand that but in what other occupation would that be acceptable(With acception to sports and fitness related occupations)? In what way does being overweight have any sort of impact on most types of work? So are you saying that someone that is overweight is less worthy as a human than someone who is in peak physical health? WOW... just wow!
As far as I am aware the Armed forces are there to protect the freedom people and civil liberties of the country that they are defending, to express themselves however they want. Not to judge them on a scale dependant on how physically fit they are.
You may work in a world where that is acceptable... But the rest of the 97.7% live in a world where judging someone by how they look is unacceptable.
Soldato
Lots of assumptions and words put in my figurative mouth there. So no, I didn't suggest or proclaim any of those things. I said, if you are obese, you should be held responsible for your wreckless lifestyle by paying extra towards your inevitable health bill, just as heavy smokers and drinkers do.
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Yes alcohol is fine in moderation, people get drunk and have a good time with friends. But cigarettes are never a good idea and unhealthy food is ok again in moderation.
We have people dieing many many years before their time due to being overweight. Yes I like chocolate and cake etc but if people are losing years of their life something has to be done. It's for peoples own good. Like drugs being illegal or wearing a seat belt.
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How do you know they don't pay their way? Do you pay your way or are you a net drain on society ? How does being a thick peasant factor into your pay your way ideal?