steam hwsurvey - no change
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You don't see anything wrong in saying that with no backup?
Slam just mentioned the hwsurvey figures and they are both very low and not increasing.
Soldato
I believe steam hardware is months behind. I check 2 weeks ago and the card with the fastest growth was a 940m.
Steam hardware survey can take 2-3 months sometimes to fully reflect changes but its probably not got the best detection of VR either.
Anecdotally though I'm seeing a lot of earlier adopters selling their VR stuff on Facebook, etc. and it doesn't seem to be to fund more updated versions, etc. though that is somewhat an assumption based on extrapolating where they do mention it.
The pudding is the actual experience of VR. Just read first impressions threads, people are"wowed", "blown away", "couldnt believe how good VR was" etc etc. Even if some are selling on their current gen sets, they will buy Vive2/CV2 and hence there are incentives to make them. The platform is just too good to fail - that is my point.
I hope so - hardware preferences aside VR is still in a fragile state and not remotely profitable at the moment. In a way I'm glad I didn't get the headset until now, only now am I seeing the sort of quality games I want. The first generation of games is a bit too hit and miss for my taste. Now that the experimentation is settling down and time has been taken to develop games like Mages Tale and Lone Echo there are AAA titles to encourage everyone along.
I'm hoping Facebook, HTC, Valve, Sony and others do have the ambition to invest and push the technology along for a decade (or more).
I'm hoping Facebook, HTC, Valve, Sony and others do have the ambition to invest and push the technology along for a decade (or more).
Road to vr reported gains on rift ownership recently https://www.roadtovr.com/modest-gains-bring-rifts-share-headsets-steam-new-high-amid-sale/ and I've only just had a new survey request, first one for ages too. Does steam do it automatically when they notice hardware change?
Nope steam just randomly polls a cross section of the user base each month - IIRC currently you have something like 1 in 7 chance of being surveyed in any given year.
I'm no statistician (spell check just proved that
) but with quite a niche field that's is going to play havoc with getting credible data surely?I'm no statistician (spell check just proved that
Large enough sample size will be roughly representative even if not an exact reflection of the whole. Its an accepted way of doing it in most industries.
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When prompted to submit the survey, it checks whether SteamVR is detecting a headset I think. I had to go back and switch on my Vive before submitting my hardware results. Pretty sure it'll be the same with the Rift.
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i didn't have headset plugged in when i did it, wonder how many people it has missed like me?
That's what I was thinking
Soldato
Can't remember doing any survey?
The Numbers playing on VRLFG are rising though, more games are seeing decent numbers playing on a daily basis.
The Numbers playing on VRLFG are rising though, more games are seeing decent numbers playing on a daily basis.
I had a second hand rift CV1 for about 8 months before it died outside of warranty. I love VR experience but at no point have I missed it since it died and have not thought of replacing it. VR is a great experience but current VR headsets have serious IQ problems I cannot simply come to terms with.
I want VR to succeed but unless a much better level of IQ is attained, at a more affordable price to make it mainstream, I cannot see it succeed. It's just far, far too niche right now.
- SDE
- God rays
- Low res
- Focus issues
- Low FOV
- Low adoption rate means not mainstream
- No triple A game support (as a consequence of the above)
I want VR to succeed but unless a much better level of IQ is attained, at a more affordable price to make it mainstream, I cannot see it succeed. It's just far, far too niche right now.
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I'd say the last 4 points are more specific to you.
I have no focus issues with the vive, with the smaller foam surround the FOV is very good. As far as mainstream goes... not quite sure of the point. i know a few people who have them, hundreds of thousands have been sold (vive alone let alone rift with its FB backing and psVR)
Tripple A games...you know fallout 4 is being redesigned for VR, as are the serious sam games, payday 2...i'm guessing you've not played robo recall, arizona sunshine, john wick, batman etc
plenty of polished titles out and in the pipeline.
I have no focus issues with the vive, with the smaller foam surround the FOV is very good. As far as mainstream goes... not quite sure of the point. i know a few people who have them, hundreds of thousands have been sold (vive alone let alone rift with its FB backing and psVR)
Tripple A games...you know fallout 4 is being redesigned for VR, as are the serious sam games, payday 2...i'm guessing you've not played robo recall, arizona sunshine, john wick, batman etc
plenty of polished titles out and in the pipeline.
I find that steam is more likely to survey you if you sign in on a new device or one you haven't signed in on in a while - I often seem to get the survey on my laptop, which sucks.
I actually had it for the first time in ages on my main desktop last night - my rift happened to be plugged in, so it detected it. I don't think it would have otherwise.
However, it thinks I only have a single 1080ti and not SLI as I had been coin mining and SLI was turned off - by the time it popped up it was too late to enable it.
Stuff like this sometimes distorts it I think.
I actually had it for the first time in ages on my main desktop last night - my rift happened to be plugged in, so it detected it. I don't think it would have otherwise.
However, it thinks I only have a single 1080ti and not SLI as I had been coin mining and SLI was turned off - by the time it popped up it was too late to enable it.
Stuff like this sometimes distorts it I think.