Steam to allow everything!
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I already have trouble filtering out all the crap anime stuff that floods the front page, god knows what it'll be like now.
It'll be interesting to see what happens to the proper adult content stuff though as it gets a mainstream platform for distribution.
Also, will steam offer parental controls to manage what their kids are buying? Will they police what tags are applied to games to ensure good filtering? There are some questions to answer before you just let any old game onto your platform
It'll be interesting to see what happens to the proper adult content stuff though as it gets a mainstream platform for distribution.
Also, will steam offer parental controls to manage what their kids are buying? Will they police what tags are applied to games to ensure good filtering? There are some questions to answer before you just let any old game onto your platform
Perhaps you're right.
If someone wants to make a beat & rape mum games let them. Who are you do forbid that? And a bomb simulator would actually be nice, how to get as many kills as possible
. I love games where I can destroy everything, eg. mix of a school in GTA and the bomb placing of Red Faction series.And perhaps you're right, if it's not real filmed material, then who cares...
Why? I always got ****** in games where you can hurt adults but can't hurt kids (eg. Fallout 3).
I want to be able kill kids in games. I don't like kids, so being able to murder or torture them in games would be awesome. Has nothing to do with real life, where I just ignore them annoying creatures.
Anything and everything should be allowed in media, films, games, etc...
People who think they have the right to forbid other people to see what they consider ''offensive'' are plainly wrong, go to some country with an authoritarian government if you believe in excessive laws and regulations. Nobody has any right deciding whats ok and not ok for others in terms of media, games, art, etc...
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Greenlight filled it with enough junk. Do we need anymore on there? It is becoming a nightmare to find any decent games other than the top sellers and word of mouth.
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No-one is forbidding it.... just preventing them from selling it on Steam.
Just as the public gets to decide what filthy seedy disgusting ***** they might want, Steam should get to decide whether it supports it or not. It's their 'shop', so if they don't want it you don't get to buy it from them.
You've just said what he said though, that discovering anything other than what's popular at the moment is difficult. And it is.
I never, ever browse the Steam store looking for games that might interest me, because there's too much rubbish on there and the recommendations system isn't good enough.
Also you keep bringing up laws, regulations, games being banned etc. That's not what's being discussed here. A store is (or should be) free to decide what to stock and what not to sell and to a large extent they have a social and moral obligation to do so. Most other large retailers do; what are the chances of School Shooter Simulator (or whatever) appearing on the shelves of Tesco?
Steam believes in freedom of choice instead of forcing their views upon others... I can only applaud that.
I like steam for convenience, so much that I boycott all other systems, I CBA with manual installation of stuff or getting my stuff anywhere else than in 1 place: Steam. I simply would be to lazy to use any other content delivery system if steam boycotted games I liked.
Imho the library can't get big enough!
Mostly good games become popular.
I rarely find a good game that is really unknown.
It's rather a moral obligation to provide a free market for games and media.
Most companies (eg. large retailers) wouldn't do such things is simple to explain, because most people are idiots, morally backwards, and think they their moral views are superior to others and try to force that on to others (I mean, what percentage of the world still believes in fairytales from religious books). People should be 100% free to decide for themselves, nobody forces you to buy a school bombing or mum beating game if you don't like it, but don't bloody prevent others easy acces to that stuff if they like it.
Just because something is forbidden in real, doesn't mean it's immoral to do so in game.
One of the big reasons I play games is to do stuff I can't or shouldn't IRL, eg. cause chaos, beat hookers, world domination, shooting stuff, blowing stuff up, etcetc. IRL, I don't even have an infraction in my name, at worst a speeding ticket... For me the best games are good strategy games (Civ series, AOE series, total war, suprme commander, Pharaoh, Anno), sim games ( Sim city 4, Cities skylines, transport games like openttd) and open world games with good storylines and loads of humor, eg GTA series, South Park Series, Fallout, etc... Simply because I can **** around in a way I can't in real life.
And yes, Fallout was slightly ruined because I couldn't use my railgun to pin the annoying kids against the wall.
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I think this is a good direction.
For those old enough in the gaming community to remember PD (public domain) games back in the day you'll know some of the controversial games that come out back then. None of them made a big impact really.
It is funny that the news that a big business is going to allow freedom of expression within the bounds of the law is greeted with a section of people as a scary prospect.
How can we teach right from wrong when nobody gets to see what might be morally wrong? We have to allow certain things through in order for there to be a conversation.
The only odd thing about this story is that they removed the school shooting game recently. In this statement they are saying they wouldn't have removed it?
For those old enough in the gaming community to remember PD (public domain) games back in the day you'll know some of the controversial games that come out back then. None of them made a big impact really.
It is funny that the news that a big business is going to allow freedom of expression within the bounds of the law is greeted with a section of people as a scary prospect.
How can we teach right from wrong when nobody gets to see what might be morally wrong? We have to allow certain things through in order for there to be a conversation.
The only odd thing about this story is that they removed the school shooting game recently. In this statement they are saying they wouldn't have removed it?
That's being a bit simplistic. Mostly good games with large marketing budgets, support from streamers, attention from gaming new websites etc become popular. There are heaps of excellent games out there that don't gain massive commercial success, get featured on Twitch (as if that's the metric for a good game) or become popular outside the relatively small circle of people who have gone out of their way to find other ways of discovering those games.
That's the point, people solely (or mainly) using Steam as their gateway into PC gaming are going to be missing a lot of the good stuff because only the big games get attention and the smaller gems get lumped in with all the crap. You can't even trust the user rating system considering people will turn against a game in a heartbeat depending on time of day or whether they've taken their pills that day.
No, Steam said they took action on that because the developer was one who was previously banned from the platform for other reasons.
Just curious, can you name a few examples? In general the last few years most games that've come out have been absolute trash. Even games that seeimngly sound fun and look very nice and are refreshing, for example in my case : Subnautica or Stardew Valley, are only good for a few hours of fun. They're genuinely good games, but somehow not as good as games 10-15 years ago.
Triple A titles are boring as hell, against better judgement I bought BF1. After 30 minutes I got bored. Whereas bf1942, vietnam and bf2 I've played for hundreds of hours.
Different example, a lot of media bashed that pickup game, can't remember it's name. I thought it was good fun. Especially trying out all the silly dialogue options. It appeals to my humor. But many would want it banned, that really annoys me.
Now Valve can finally develop their tagging and storefront system in peace without constantly wondering when the next media storm is going to annoy them, now that they've basically told everyone to **** off and laid down their no go zones, i imagine it'll give them the time they need.
I hope this annoys the stupids who think private entities should do as they want.
I hope this annoys the stupids who think private entities should do as they want.
Ahh. So the developer was banned for ban evasion.
I already have trouble filtering out all the crap anime stuff that floods the front page, god knows what it'll be like now.
It'll be interesting to see what happens to the proper adult content stuff though as it gets a mainstream platform for distribution.
Also, will steam offer parental controls to manage what their kids are buying? Will they police what tags are applied to games to ensure good filtering? There are some questions to answer before you just open up the store to everything
It'll be interesting to see what happens to the proper adult content stuff though as it gets a mainstream platform for distribution.
Also, will steam offer parental controls to manage what their kids are buying? Will they police what tags are applied to games to ensure good filtering? There are some questions to answer before you just open up the store to everything
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I'm all freedom, so well done Steam
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This is how I feel, there so much terrible, wack some assets into unity with no effort, 'games' already that it's going to get unbearable.
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