Steorn Demo at Kinetica

jcb33 · 4 Jul 2007 at 13:38

Last time an energy source like this was about to hit, a fuel company made them a substantial offer which was turned down, and then the lead scientist vanished.... Would not hold my breath about this getting into the eye of the public, fuel companies are far to greedy to let that happen!

leaskovski · 4 Jul 2007 at 13:41

jcb33 said:
Las time an energy source like this was about to hit, a fuel company made them a substantial offer which was turned down, and then the lead scientist vanished.... Would not hold my breath about this getting into the eye of the public, fuel companies are far to greedy to let that happen!

Unless they bunk off the 200 people as well who signed up to the NDA and are testing devices, i doubt that will happen.

jcb33 · 4 Jul 2007 at 14:09

leaskovski said:
Unless they bunk off the 200 people as well who signed up to the NDA and are testing devices, i doubt that will happen.

I realy do hope not, this could be very good, free energy, that does not hurt the Earth any more, will certainly help us by untill Sub Space Energy is redily avaliable...

Doubt you can use it with computers mind, due to it using magnetics, and magnets + hard drives =

Duff-Man · 4 Jul 2007 at 14:11

jcb33 said:
Las time an energy source like this was about to hit, a fuel company made them a substantial offer which was turned down, and then the lead scientist vanished.... Would not hold my breath about this getting into the eye of the public, fuel companies are far to greedy to let that happen!

And what energy source would this be?

Haircut · 4 Jul 2007 at 14:58

I've been waiting for this even since I first heard about Steorn.
I find it really difficult to believe that anything like this could be possible, but it will be interesting to see what the outcome of the demonstration is regardless.

jcb33 said:
Doubt you can use it with computers mind, due to it using magnetics, and magnets + hard drives =

That shouldn't make a difference, if there was a device like this you would likely have one in your house to produce the electricity rather than having one in every device.

leaskovski · 4 Jul 2007 at 15:10

Well aparently we will find out a 6pm london time when a live webcam/video will be available...

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0704/steorn.html

:eek:

Today the invention will go on public display for the first time with a live working demonstration to be streamed on the internet from 6pm tonight.

Steorn Chief Executive Sean McCarthy has said the demonstration will involve a 'very simplified version' of the technology and it will be open to the public from Thursday 5 July to Friday 13 July at the Kinetica Museum at Spitalfields Market in London.

Sceptics can view the device lifting a weight from four different camera angles online.

Mr McCarthy said the company had decided against using the technology to illuminate a light-bulb as the use of wires would attract further suspicion from a scientific community that has already dismissed the device.

Gaverick · 4 Jul 2007 at 15:28

Sounds like this guy really believes in the technology, I'll be interested to see what happens

Cold_And_Miserable · 4 Jul 2007 at 15:31

Duff-Man said:
And what energy source would this be?

I'm betting its the 10^30 Joules of the Earth's rotation, say goodbye to alternating day and night.

knowledge123 · 4 Jul 2007 at 15:35

If this device works and is not a con, does that mean that they will have to rewrite the laws of physics, seen as it breaks them?

Arcade Fire · 4 Jul 2007 at 15:37

I await the results with great interest, and a generous helping of skepticism.

aardvark · 4 Jul 2007 at 15:51

jcb33 said:
Last time an energy source like this was about to hit, a fuel company made them a substantial offer which was turned down, and then the lead scientist vanished....

probably because he was wanted for fraud.

leaskovski · 4 Jul 2007 at 15:57

Some more news...

http://www.siliconrepublic.com/news/news.nv?storyid=single8713

The Orbo will also be viewable live on the internet from 6pm this evening at http://www.steorn.com/orbo/demo/demo.html, with four webcams focused on the machine 24 hours a day.

Edit:

Direct link to the demo updated.

thelonecrouton · 4 Jul 2007 at 16:21

Plug the output into the input and see if the universe rapidly goes up in flames. If it doesn't, it aint no free energy machine.

Looking forward to 6pm though, although I doubt they have remotely the needed bandwidth available for those 4 cams.

Radiation · 4 Jul 2007 at 16:49

PanMaster said:
I'm betting its the 10^30 Joules of the Earth's rotation, say goodbye to alternating day and night.

Ah this reminds me, i once wondered if it was possible to use the energy from the earths rotation, like how water down the sink turns.

Also i always wondered if its possible to balance a magnet between another magnet above and the earths mavity below, incredibly hard no doubt but surely its possible in theory?

delta555 · 4 Jul 2007 at 17:02

jcb33 said:
Doubt you can use it with computers mind, due to it using magnetics, and magnets + hard drives =

Hard drives are not very sensitive to external magnetic sources (within reason) As they have to use some pretty strong magnets inside to move the arm at such a rapid rate. If you take one apart you will see how strong the magnets inside a hard drive really are.

kaiowas · 4 Jul 2007 at 17:06

Radiation said:
Also i always wondered if its possible to balance a magnet between another magnet above and the earths mavity below, incredibly hard no doubt but surely its possible in theory?

Theoretically it can be done but it's an unstable system so is practically very difficult to achieve. It would only take the tiniest movement in either direction for the 'floating' magnet to get pulled towards either the static magnet or the ground.

TheCrow · 4 Jul 2007 at 17:09

leaskovski said:
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Steorn Chief Executive Sean McCarthy has said the demonstration will involve a 'very simplified version' of the technology and it will be open to the public from Thursday 5 July to Friday 13 July at the Kinetica Museum at Spitalfields Market in London.
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Click to expand...

So how can he demo a simplified version, is that the same as me brining an abacus along to demo how my computer works?

i call fake, but we can always hope

Duff-Man · 4 Jul 2007 at 17:12

knowledge123 said:
If this device works and is not a con, does that mean that they will have to rewrite the laws of physics, seen as it breaks them?

In a word: Yes.

Thermodynamics (and the quantum mechanical principles from which it is derived) would no longer be valid. We would have to completely re-examine the nature of energy and entropy. Hence my extreme skepticism.

Of course I would love for it to actually be such a revolution, I just think there's a better chance of turning on the TV tomorrow to see stories of flying pigs.

MookJong · 4 Jul 2007 at 17:37

The demo is 6pm Eastern Time (ET)

BTW

Clinkz · 4 Jul 2007 at 17:45

Radiation said:
Also i always wondered if its possible to balance a magnet between another magnet above and the earths mavity below, incredibly hard no doubt but surely its possible in theory?

Yes!

I don't have a link but last time i was in Paris i saw a gadget that exhibited this effect in a shop under the louvre. Basically a small light globe suspended spinning in mid air by a magnet above it.

Surprisingly stable.