Steve Jobs has died. What effect, if any, will it have on Apple and the tech industry?

Jasonst888 said:
It is funny how these threads (i.e. mention Apple) devolve into a mud slinging match.....I personally dislike Apple stuff, i feel its overpriced, restrictive...but mostly its the general assumption of people that its the best because it has that little apple on it that really annoys me.....
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LOL "it's funny how these threads devolve into a mud slinging match......*slings mud*"
 
been out drinking with friends and discussing Steve Jobs amongst other bar table topics. What surprised me is that in a lot of his life Steve Jobs wasn't really a role model citizen.

E.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Brennan-Jobs


Steve Jobs refused to acknowledge paternity, swearing in court documents that he could not be Lisa's father because he was "sterile and infertile, and as a result thereof, did not have the physical capacity to procreate a child." Eventually Jobs acknowledged paternity. He later married Laurene Powell and fathered three more children
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That is not such a golden past in my mind. A bit of an a-hole maneuver .

I wonder if any of this clouds some of the people preaching Job's greatness?
 
no hes known to of been an *******, anyone that thinks otherwise has their heads in the clouds..theres 100 of stories out there from various people that knew him clearly expressing that he had a tendancy to be a nasty piece of work to get what he wanted.

still im sure he hasnt been the only person in the world to own a massive buisness and be a bit of a noob.
 
iamtheoneneo said:
no hes known to of been an *******, anyone that thinks otherwise has their heads in the clouds..theres 100 of stories out there from various people that knew him clearly expressing that he had a tendancy to be a nasty piece of work to get what he wanted.

still im sure he hasnt been the only person in the world to own a massive buisness and be a bit of a noob.
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He is, even though he is a buddhist, unlike his counterpart in Microsoft who donated and continues to donate millions to charity, jobs does no such thing.

He is a dictator, a smart one but still a dictator.
 
"andy" said:
:D

i don't think it has even ever happened. yet it happens all the time in the apple section or threads to do with apple.
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Really? There are loads of apparent Apple users who go into windows threads and post about how good their system is, generally (apparently at least) not having used windows since early XP. Same with the mobile section, with plenty of "get an iPhone" suggestions in threads asking for reasons either way. Happens both ways, moreso "against" Apple but that would make sense considering the general market share.

On the other hand the android fanboyism is starting to get out of control.
 
Captain Planet said:
Negative, I couldn't care less about Apple or whatever the brand. Technology is there to serve me not for me to get emotionally attached to it . It amuses me that you think I care otherwise as does reading this thread.
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Without trying to start the philosophical argument I agree with most of this and it is an important snippet.

Technology is there to help your lifestyle, rather than changing your lifestyle to fit technology. Its what the "should have bought an i****" brigade need to realise. None of their devices suite my needs, but that can change, for example the original iPhones were just terrible but the iPhone 4 with its new screen etc was a lot better, software is still terrible for my needs/wants though. Same with Macs, the new ones are pretty nice and good machines, old ones terrible.

The problem is there seems to be a disproportionate number of Apple users that appear to have changed their lifestyle to suit the technology they want to buy... Not that MS and Google don't have the same problems with some of their users.... No hardware isn't everything, especially if that hardware is damn ugly!
 
Raymond Lin said:
I think a lot of people are missing out on the white elephant in the room.

There is a mentality in the English culture that we support the underdog but also to hate the people at the top.

Whether it is:

Jamie Oliver - why do people hate him I have no idea, the guy only cooks, tried to make our school children eat healthier and write cook books
Andy Murray - I know some people hate him because of his attitude? The guy plays Tennis for a living, not slaughter children ! these people have never met him !
Sebastian Vettel - Same as above, I remember reading the Top Gear thread after he was on it and some poster mention how he is actually a nice guy but "I still hate him". What?? He is just successful racing driver, you only ever see him on TV sitting in a F1 car all covered up in fireproof gear driving and doing post race interviews. Hate him for what?

Or Manchester United

You don't see people hate the guy always finish half way down the race. You don't see people hate a tennis player rank 125th in the world. nor do you hate Bristol City (unless you are a Bristol Rovers fan)

Where the American celebrate their successes, the English tries to take them down.

The same thing with Apple.

People didn't hate Apply back in the 90's, they were small fish, they hated Bill Gates instead for their monopolisation of the PC market. Now it is Apple's turn, (even thought they only actually have around quarter of the overall PC market in reality, and a smaller % in the smart phone market than Android.) People somehow knock Apple for reasons I cannot fathom, not on a logical level.

All they do is make products, if people like them, they buy them, if they don't, they won't.

People keep knocking their product on how it is not as good as others. Well, the real test really is come down to us as consumers isn't it? We like them, we buy them. If you don't like it, don't. Why keep banging on how it is rubbish compare to your Android at Apple users? Do you get a kick out of it?
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You're not describing me there then as I like all of them... Except Manchester united as I don't follow football...;)

The rest of the post can be answered with 5 words... "Should have got an i****"... It really happens a lot, in fact I have about half a dozen max and iPhone using friends and half of them will bring up that phrase a lot. The other half don't care either way. Those that do care the ones that have several I devices...
Again it doesn't just affect Apple users, there are plenty of other groups that appear to be heading that way (android)...
 
Tefal said:
jonneymendoza





from uber noob to pro dev in charge of hiring on a whim in only 3 years eh?
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whats your point? just because i have only been a member on xda for 3 years means i have also been a developer for 3 years too? not possible to have been a developer for longer then that? i diddnt know EVERY software developer signs up to xda as soon as they become a developer LOL
 
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Raymond Lin said:
There is a mentality in the English culture that we support the underdog but also to hate the people at the top.

Whether it is:

Jamie Oliver - why do people hate him I have no idea, the guy only cooks, tried to make our school children eat healthier and write cook books
Andy Murray - I know some people hate him because of his attitude? The guy plays Tennis for a living, not slaughter children ! these people have never met him !
Sebastian Vettel - Same as above, I remember reading the Top Gear thread after he was on it and some poster mention how he is actually a nice guy but "I still hate him". What?? He is just successful racing driver, you only ever see him on TV sitting in a F1 car all covered up in fireproof gear driving and doing post race interviews. Hate him for what?

Or Manchester United
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I think hate is a strong word. I think "direct their frustration at" is more apt.

Jamie Oliver is a **** though, he's an over the top mockney nobjock who in real life isn't a very nice person. I know this because I work over one of his restaurants and instances include not turning up when schoolkids turned up to open his new restaurant after they had designed the railings opposite.

Also, refusing to sign an autograph for a friend at an event he was paid to attend specifically to do that sort of thing. When asked politely he said "No. I'm walking".

Andy Murray isn't hated. He just has the personality of a rock and has made questionable comments in the past (whether taken out of context or not) about his nationality.

Vettel again isn't hated. People just hate the lack of challenge to him in F1 and his stupid finger thing is irritating. I actually think he's a nice bloke.

People again hate the lack of challenge to united and the fact that everyone is a united fan these days for no discernably good reason. In fact Brighton should be named "New Manchester" as its so bad down here.
 
jonneymendoza said:
whats your point? just because i have only been a member on xda for 3 years means i have also been a developer for 3 years too? not possible to have been a developer for longer then that? i diddnt know EVERY software developer signs up to xda as soon as they become a developer LOL
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no my point is you seemed utterly clueless 3 years ago, (and still pretty clueless now) so the authority you say you have in your "company" is bull****, unless it's a really low quality kinda place.
 
Todge said:
Jesus christ can a mod just close the thread. It's not even a slanging match between apple and android.
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The idiots are now having a slanging match about what people are doing in jobs. Shame they can't keep this thread on track.
 
Indeed.

I haven't followed Apple so tightly that I know the ins and outs of the company....But you would think that by his passing it would have SOME kind of effect?

All depends how free the designers etc where
 
Tefal said:
no my point is you seemed utterly clueless 3 years ago, (and still pretty clueless now) so the authority you say you have in your "company" is bull****, unless it's a really low quality kinda place.
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How? XDA is not a bloody developer forum. its a blooming mobile phone forum :rolleyes:. YAY im clueless on how to root my device. congratulations :o

jesus christ some people here are very thick.
 
Delvis said:
Indeed.

I haven't followed Apple so tightly that I know the ins and outs of the company....But you would think that by his passing it would have SOME kind of effect?

All depends how free the designers etc where
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waht effect? he is a front man of apple. the other guy who co founded apple is the real brains of the business.

Life in the tech world will go on, the only affect for his death is his family and friends. not the tech world.
 
jonneymendoza said:
waht effect? he is a front man of apple. the other guy who co founded apple is the real brains of the business.

Life in the tech world will go on, the only affect for his death is his family and friends. not the tech world.
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What effect? How about what the op was about? :p

Like I said, I didn't follow apple, so I'm not aware of what kind of impact he had on the company at a day to day basis
 
jonneymendoza said:
waht effect? he is a front man of apple. the other guy who co founded apple is the real brains of the business.

Life in the tech world will go on, the only affect for his death is his family and friends. not the tech world.
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You do know that if Woz had been left in charge of Apple, the computers would still come in kit form and you'd have to build them yourself?

Woz is an engineer. Not a businessman. Apple under Woz would have gone the same way as the other home computer manufacturers in the 70s and 80s.
 
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