Stop............. Kuro time

-Ad- said:
If you buy a smasung, have fun trying to get around problems, new firmwares left right and centre, non existant tech support, and generally dealing with a flawed product :D
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Or you could be like most the public rather than some pretty anal people on the AV forums and just watch Tv :D

I reckon most the 'problems' people have are due to reading about them on that forum. Ignorance is bliss at times.

Great TV though, looks awesome.
 
Nice TV. The 9G thread with the cars screenshot is very impressive, talking of cars...

They dont make the 206 anymore and it wasnt 1/3 of the price of a F430. What car have you got, let me slate it with whatever I chose that costs 3 times the amount ;)
 
Or you could be like most the public rather than some pretty anal people on the AV forums and just watch Tv
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Flashing, de-defocussing is pretty obvious. Hum bars less so, and only if using a lower backlight. Regardless, they're cheap products with bugs. If only Samsung gets things sorted they'll be great.

rather than the un-realistic and too colourful LCD screens
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As for LCD- OOTB they are colourful and bright, but they don't have to be. Spend 20 minutes and you get get a far better picture.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Nice TV. The 9G thread with the cars screenshot is very impressive, talking of cars...

They dont make the 206 anymore and it wasnt 1/3 of the price of a F430. What car have you got, let me slate it with whatever I chose that costs 3 times the amount ;)
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Over the top example, but it still stands that the samsungs have horrible quality control withteh amount of reported problems and half arsed reapir attempts from engineers who don't know how to cure the faults, which samsung don't care about.

Sorry going off on one, Im going to leave samsung out of this thread, the kuro will beat me for using the name when I get back tonight :D

badbob, I have played with LCDs to tweak them to give a more respectable picture, but they are usually still too colourful, and when you try to remove this I find they can become dulll and lifeless. Not of real interest to me until i get smaller LCds for kitchen etc :)
 
and when you try to remove this I find they can become dulll and lifeless.
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Then you've gone too far. Reduce colour, reduce backlight, but increase contrast to near maximum. Disable all processing, reduce sharpness all the way down. That way should have a more CRT like picture.

You just need to use a LCD with high contrast relative to backlight, otherwise like you said it looks dull.
 
badbob said:
Then you've gone too far. Reduce colour, reduce backlight, but increase contrast to near maximum. Disable all processing, reduce sharpness all the way down. That way should have a more CRT like picture.

You just need to use a LCD with high contrast relative to backlight, otherwise like you said it looks dull.
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I am a noob with them to be quite honest :D

They arn't bad, but still certainly not CRT like. Only thing that reminds me of CRT is the older 8G kuro, I think the 9G surpasses with ease.
 
hmm can get a Pioneer PDP-5080XD-T with stand and 5 years for £1600. I don't know if if it's worth £1000 more for 1080 and newer gen..
 
badbob said:
hmm can get a Pioneer PDP-5080XD-T with stand and 5 years for £1600. I don't know if if it's worth £1000 more for 1080 and newer gen..
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Oooo when you say it that, im not so sure. i did get mine for a bit less and the 508 i was going to get was more expensive, but 1k is a lot of money. Sound is very important too :D
 
I'll take a look at some Kuros in the shops... i remember seeing one in John Lewis and being rather impressed..

Plus, the Samsung 650/750 52" is around £2200, the 50" Kuro is around £2600 so there's not a 'huuuuuge' difference.... hmmmmmm

I wonder if they'll hook up a PS3/360 and demo some games
 
OCdude said:
I'll take a look at some Kuros in the shops... i remember seeing one in John Lewis and being rather impressed..

Plus, the Samsung 650/750 52" is around £2200, the 50" Kuro is around £2600 so there's not a 'huuuuuge' difference.... hmmmmmm

I wonder if they'll hook up a PS3/360 and demo some games
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If the samsung is that much then there is no way in hell i would recommend one. You pay for what you get, and all that. I thought the sammy would be under 1500, but 2200 is ridiculous.
 
Okay ive been reading up a bit more (i'm way behind on Plasma technology).

From what i can see, plasma's are the way to go! haha

Totally defecting from LCD now :D

I initially thought "oh there's not even any processing features on the plasmas... 100Hz etc etc) but then.... am i right in thinking it's because it doesn't even NEED it? (not saying plasmas dont have tweaks/adjustments etc - just saying they don't need excessive 'enhancement' stuff slapped on?!)
 
hahah, well for SD and movies i would never get an LCD to use as my main tv.

As you have realised the processing inside the tv is more than quoting fancy techonolgies, 100hz etc, and a lot of manufacturers push them when in actual fact all they do is destroy a picture and need to be turned off.

Even on my Kuro, ALL noise reduction etc is off, sharpness at minimal, black enhancer off, all other auto picture adjustments off, and colours turned down and tweaked to give a more realistic image. Just look at these 2 pictures and tell me which one is the better one, then il tell you what tvs they are off.

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Rebelius said:
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but are they actually the exact same frame? if so what the hell has the bottom one done to his eye?
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I think they are about 1 second out. He is looking around in the scene so in the bottom one he is looking at a different spot.

Top one looks better colour wise, but the bottom has more detail to me because of the far too vivid colour.
 
The top picture looks great...

On my SVPA LCD laptop screen. See i dont get these type of picture comparisons forums.

2nd picture looks like sharpness is higher aswell, that or some edge enhancement.
 
Correct there lads.

It's not a perfect test with the pictures slightly out time wise, viewing on our own screen, and not knowing the setup settings of each of the tvs in question, but it still shows how bad some tvs can look, and I think side by side in store a lot of the general public would choose 2 because it is more colourful etc. But it actually loses detail as it is oversharpened, especially on the beard hairs,and clearly on the white pillow casing.

So:

A = 8G Kuro
B = latest philips LCd (can't remember model number).

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In image 2, did Will Smith get sunburnt from standing to close to the vivid colours of his LCD TV?
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ya rly :D

nb. put wimbledon on, great great tennis between fed and nadal, and it looks smashing on the kuro. Who needs HD or freesat :p
 
[DOD]Asprilla;12035527 said:
Mate, you should try watching it HD on a Kuro, like I've been doing to the last two weeks ;)
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:mad::mad: :p:p

Found under a faceplate this week on my wall in the flat that we have a cable from the communal sat dish. Too late otherwise I would have got a freesat box for the Euros and wimbledon.

Will wait until next year then will get one when they are cheaper and hopefully more content is available. Really need C4 HD to come to freesat but dunno if and when they will come out of any contract with sky.

Enjoy the final, it is an awesome spectal of power and skill. I think nadal will have it in the next 20mins :D
 
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