Stop the muggings, learn krav maga!
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Depends on the severity of the attack and how many people attacked me. If the guy came at me with a knife then I would make sure he wasn’t getting up anytime soon and the knife no longer available to him. If it’s just a “normal” attack then once they were down I would make a sharp exit.
Where possible I would try to avoid any situation like this, I would rather run away, I will defend myself as a last resort. If you can run away then do it.
Where possible I would try to avoid any situation like this, I would rather run away, I will defend myself as a last resort. If you can run away then do it.
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A lot of arts use the attackers momentum against them - not using the defenders own force.
I say meet force with force in the street fight situation.
You can be quite adept at maiming/killing someone but chances are you wont use it in a forceful manner in everyday life.
The dipsticks that start on people that know how to fight back deserve to have the crap kicked out of them.
Ive seen it happen and tbh its sooo funny.
Just desserts methinks
I say meet force with force in the street fight situation.
You can be quite adept at maiming/killing someone but chances are you wont use it in a forceful manner in everyday life.
The dipsticks that start on people that know how to fight back deserve to have the crap kicked out of them.
Ive seen it happen and tbh its sooo funny.
Just desserts methinks
That's true to an extent but as long as it's not ultra-violence in retaliation I am sure you can quite easily self defend yourself. To say that you'd go to jail a la the whole Tony Martin thing is just media scare mongering in my opinion.Balddog said:
I don't usually participate in these threads as it brings out a whole macho image which is usually thuggery hidden behind a self-defence front but this looks like quite a good system, especially as it's designed by the Israelis...they sure don't **** around!
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Che said:
I’m with you on that one Che, I didn’t start doing this for bragging or macho rights. I just wanted to learn how to defend myself properly. I don’t go around starting fights or anything like that and will avoid confrontations wherever possible.
Remember this pimp getting a beating video. Backfist to the temple anyone? LOL.
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Che said:
I would love to learn this - geographically wrong though
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Hahahaha that pimp vid is ace.
ALLI said:
Katas will what? The techniques they teach you will aid you in your defence, but I know I wouldnt use a Kata/Form/Tul/Poomse in a real life situation.
I recommend Geoff Thompson's Dead or Alive. It teaches you how to become aware of your surroundings, and is a good insight into defense.
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ALLI said:
Your trying to tell me that you can learn more by reading a book and practicing the techniques yourself as opposed to being taught by a qualified instructor along with a group of people? This I very much doubt. I'm sure its possible but not for me.
Yes Zip anyone can learn it, infact there is a woman who does one of the basic classes who must be at least 60 years old.
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Krav Maga IS very cool, but its all about Killing or maiming as quickly as possible with whatever you have on hand, its not a practical art by any standards 'on the street' but the training does give you a hell of an advantage while using a more practical martial art *judo pimpage*
If you look at the training involved past the initial response aspect its about interesting things like defending yourself (read hurting) several people at once in extreme situations like backed into a corner, or with a limb disabled.
Instinctive things like blocking with your arms are moved over to more aggressive actions like a counter attack, take a punch and instead of redirecting to remove the threat, you would take the arm and attack the elbow.
Honestly anyone that takes it up as a self defence technique should only do so if they are confident they can control themselves in a fight, otherwise there is a good chance you'll get nicked for assault.
There are much more sensible options such as aikido, judo, Jujitsu which give you excellent defence against an untrained opponent and minimal risk of serious injury to the aggressor, and quite honestly how many of you have actually been in a fight with a well trained martial artist outside a training establishment?
I have never done Krav maga (although if there was somewhere local to me I would trial it) but I've read a lot and watched a few instructional vids. Its an aggressive system pure and simple.
If you look at the training involved past the initial response aspect its about interesting things like defending yourself (read hurting) several people at once in extreme situations like backed into a corner, or with a limb disabled.
Instinctive things like blocking with your arms are moved over to more aggressive actions like a counter attack, take a punch and instead of redirecting to remove the threat, you would take the arm and attack the elbow.
Honestly anyone that takes it up as a self defence technique should only do so if they are confident they can control themselves in a fight, otherwise there is a good chance you'll get nicked for assault.
There are much more sensible options such as aikido, judo, Jujitsu which give you excellent defence against an untrained opponent and minimal risk of serious injury to the aggressor, and quite honestly how many of you have actually been in a fight with a well trained martial artist outside a training establishment?
I have never done Krav maga (although if there was somewhere local to me I would trial it) but I've read a lot and watched a few instructional vids. Its an aggressive system pure and simple.
richyfingers said:
The whole premise of krav maga is to train your body to react without thinking...The idea is that you respond with what will render that person harmless in the quickest time...You dont get to choose an appropriate response.
Perhaps your trainer is doing things differently, but if its the real thing and not some get rich scheme then its supposed to be devastating..You get attacked, you put them down...for good. You keep hitting until they cant get up to hit you back. You do whatever it takes to make sure they are no threat to you ever again..Thats how the Israelis teach it :dunno:
Che said:
Next time youre taking a stroll through the west bank then im sure it will come in useful...When some bloke pushes you in a pub and you rip off his balls and stick a pint glass through his spine, you wont think its so great.
Oh don't be ridiculous. Just because you know how to effectively fight and do damage to someone doesn't mean that you're either totally passive or on a Rambo killing spree. If I theoretically knew how to do Krav Maga it doesn't necessarily mean I'd take away thier ability to eat with their mouth in every little scrap and scrape. I imagine it's more handy in a situation where you're faced with someone with a broken glass coming at you, or a load of football hooligans for example.
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Che said:
Its really not that kind of art, as Balddog so sensibly said if it IS Krav maga its training in instinctive reactions, not training you to assess the fight as you would in karate or judo.
Its simply training you to react to incoming attacks in the most efficient way possible, I know it teaches very few limb locks or blocks that can't be redirected into retalliation, and really the last thing you want to be doing in a streetfight is fighting overkill, if you've ever been in a pub brawl you will know doing the least possible to defend yourself (in all but the most extreme situations) is the best course, otherwise when the bouncers / whatever have got past the loons with the broken noses they are going to put you down.
I've only been in a couple of real fights in my life, and I've never been dumb enough to be the one getting the bouncers attention... just held my own until they have come to break it up.
panthro said:
I'll just say this, ITS A MILITARY CLOSE QUARTERS COMBAT TECHNIQUE! not a bloody pub brawl technique.
Velocity219e said:
Mate, I know what it is. But in the UK, the most likely situation where you would have to use martial arts is in self defence, and being caught up in some kind of pub brawl/several people on 1 person fight or mugging is most likely where it will get used. Your not in the Gaza Strip.
Any instructor clever enough, will use the techniques taught to him and teach them to his pupils in a method that would apply to likely scenarios.