Stressed after confrontation

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Hi All,

I need to vent about an incident which occured yesterday and what better place than the OCUK forums.

Yesterday my wife was ill in bed. In the afternoon i received 2 prank phone calls. I recognised the voice of 1 of the kids straight away, he's a kid we've had problems with in the past. I got quite angry because the calls woke up my wife. Thanks to caller ID, i had the mobile number they used and called them back but obviously they wouldn't answer. About an hour later it happened again and once again, i recogised the kids voice. I also saw another kid outside our house who is quite good friends with my son. As soon as he saw me he said "oh, i just saw Eddie (the child who's voice i recognised), he was boasting about making prank calls to you". So I called the child's mother and basically told her that my wife was ill and her son was making prank phone calls to me, please could she ask him to stop. I was very polite and she simply said "yes i understand".

About 15 minutes later I had a call back from her husband. As soon as i answered the phone, he launched into me. I can't swear in here but he called me every name under the sun about 20 times and threatened to smash my face in etc etc. He kept asking me why i thought it was his son but every time i started speaking, he just interrupted and kept on with the verbal abuse and saying "i'll be round yours in 5 minutes to sort you out..". In the end i put the phone down because it was obviously I was getting nowhere and i was getting a bit tired of the way he spoke to me.

The verbal threats were so bad I really thought he was on his way. I contacted the police call centre and explained what happened. 1 hour later, 2 police officers showed up and asked me what happened. I explained what happened and basically they said "Nobody should be spoken to like that, you can't go around threatening people. Leave it with us". About another hour later the police called me back saying they had "checked up on him" and decided to speak to him. He admitted the threats & the abuse. The police basically informed him that it wasn't acceptable and that both families should stay away from each other. I wasn't expecting them to do much, the main reason for my calling was simply so that they have a record of it happening.

But ever since then I can't stop thinking about it. I keep wondering how i could have prevented it & how i can make him realise what an arse he is. I'm 33 years old and honestly never been spoken to like that. He was mental, completely out of control. And all because i asked for the calls to stop. I have kids myself and if somebody called me and said my son was making prank calls i'd simply have a word with my child. No big deal, all kids make prank calls. The only reason it bothered me yesterday was because of my ill wife.

I find it quite difficult to let go of things. I'm quite a vengeful person and am consumed by it.

Before anyone says "you should smash his face in" or anything of those sorts....he's a 6'3" ex army chap who is considerably larger than me and quite obviously has serious anger issues.
 
All I'll say is... You couldn't have prevented it, and you can't (and shouldn't try) make him realise what an arse he is. Stay out of his way, it sounds like it's not worth it.

Let it go, it'll get you nowhere.
 
"i'll be round yours in 5 minutes to sort you out..".... The police basically informed him that it wasn't acceptable and that both families should stay away from each other.
If you don't want to rise above it (which you really should), press charges. Threatening to assault someone is (AFAIK) assault itself under English law.
 
Invite him round, before he arrives smack your head with a brick or something, as he arrives get him to hold the brick, call the police and tell them he tried to kill you :p
 
Brush it off and carry on. The world is filled with nutters who flip at the slightest things. The police have a record of it now so if it happens again they know who to believe.
 
Let it go, spend some time with your wife and maybe consider having a few words with your son about who he hangs out with.
 
But ever since then I can't stop thinking about it. I keep wondering how i could have prevented it & how i can make him realise what an arse he is. I'm 33 years old and honestly never been spoken to like that.

I don't see how you could have done much different tbh... I think you did exactly the right thing, the guy sounds like a massive douche and a direct confrontation would have probably made matters worse. No one should be subjected to threats like that so I'm not surprised you called the police. At least now you know where this problem kid gets it from.... If you get prank calls again then I believe you can speak to BT regarding it - I assume you mentioned the calls to the police too?
 
Maybe his wife told him that you'd threatened to kill his son or something... Your message might have been altered after passing through a womans brain.
Regardless, the man sounds like an unpleasant idiot, and it doesn't sound like you did anything wrong to me.





You should smash his face in.
 
I am not a lawyer.

Nonetheless, he has assaulted you. He acted in such a way to cause you to reasonably anticipate battery, where the battery would be him turning up and hitting you. If he does so he's in seriously deep ****, calling the police in the spirit of recording the event was the right thing to do.
 
If everything you say here is correct, I think you just handled the situation in the best possible way. Good to have a police record of it all.

Some people are just venting their frustration at the wrong people and in the wrong way. Maybe (and hopefully) this dude is not feeling happy about what he did/said to you. Anyway, leave it be now and just pray that this dude is not venting his frustration on the kid or his wife at this moment!
 
How did he get your phone number though?

The lad used to be friends with my son so they had our home phone number.

Thanks for the replies, i don't think I could have prevented it or done anything differently. I was very polite to his wife and simply explained what was going on. The guy is in his 40's for crying out loud. Grow up !! If he deals with minor problems in that way, god knows how he deals with serious problems.
 
pray that this dude is not venting his frustration on the kid or his wife at this moment!

On this note, if you think this is plausible you could point social services at them. A particularly obnoxious child coupled with a headcase for a father means domestic violence is possible.

Alternatively if you'd just like some form of vengeance, pitching social services at them stands a decent chance of inconveniencing him either way.
 
tbh this prank call stuff happens as kids go through school, best to try and ignore, or just tell the police, as you found out parents can be a bit irrational about little Johnny.

we had some kid put an add in auto trader with our number on it, it wound us up but in the end went away, I think we might have had a word with the school.

We tended to go school first, then police, then it tends to end. The police have a word with the kid and the kids parents. Leaves you out of it.
 
You shouldn't have had to prevent this, but you could have:

1) You needn't have answered the first prank call. If it's a mobile phone number that you don't recognise, don't answer it. If it's important, they'll leave a message.

2) Having received the first prank call from that number, you definitely shouldn't have answered the second call. You could even have blocked the number.

3) What were you expecting to achieve by ringing the lad's parents? Did you honestly expect his parents would take the matter seriously, give the kid a stern talking to, he'd accept wrongdoing and stop making prank calls? Of course not; it just lets the kid know he'd getting to you. If he's the kind of kid who enjoys harassing other kid's parents', what made you think he's going to listen to his own parents?

If you'd simply refused to answer the kid's calls and hadn't called his parents, he would have got bored and moved on to the next idiotic plot of his.
 
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