Stuck in a non posting boot loop

Nutty_Death · 14 Jul 2020 at 08:02

I can order a few bits from them and go and collect tomorrow, to save on delivery.

I'd like to make a new cable which goes from the JSPI1 9 pins to the 4x2 but not really sure how to do that.

Nutty_Death · 14 Jul 2020 at 08:26

Journey said:
You should be able to remove the old one if you are careful, they are only push fit, I've done in many times with RS232 etc.

Far too tempting just to leave it alone, bay NAHHHH.

You'd need to get some pin crimps that fit the header, if it is the 4x2 connector I think you are talking about the pitch of the socket it 2.54mm, and the pins are easily available, usually about 2p each. Best post a picture if you want more help, as I'm just part guessing about the connector you are referring to.

The RS link I posted above is the connector. I've already destroyed the current one by trying to take it apart. It uses teeth rather than something which goes around each cable.

Yes I think you're right about the pitch.

I'll do some research today.

Nutty_Death · 14 Jul 2020 at 12:22

Ordered a 4x2 idc ribbon connectors with a pitch of 2.54mm. I'll pick them up tomorrow.

Also watched this thrilling video https://youtu.be/4pDRrrpAcGQ figure I can just use a clamp to apply an equal pressure to the connector.

If this doesn't work, I'll get the mortar max.

Nutty_Death · 14 Jul 2020 at 12:45

Journey said:
Used that very method prior to having access to the correct tools, and worked well as long as you take your time.

Good luck, I hope it works out for you. You can start selling board flashes if it does

Ha yeah, I've got deep into this rabbit hole. Even made a lubuntu live USB yesterday to see if the flashing software worked better outside of Windows. Next step would be learning how to solder, which would be a very practical life skill to have but I'm not getting into that now, as I'll end up just spending more money than buying a new motherboard costs.

Nutty_Death · 15 Jul 2020 at 15:34

Shortened the cable.
Using the clamp worked perfectly.

Flash seems to have worked and verified successfully however the computer still doesn't post and shows the CPU led. I'm not convinced the CPU is broken as the motherboard is behaving differently from when it was just boot looping but i'm not sure what the issue is now

Nutty_Death · 15 Jul 2020 at 16:42

Journey said:
Buy another board, that's about the best scenario here. You could even flash the new board if you wanted to be sure what you are doing is working.

Yes I think that's where i'm at.
I flashed a v1 bios, just in case the latest one was just an update rather than a full image. It seemed to flash fine again, so i'm fairly sure i've cracked that part but still didn't post.
I gave all the cables a good push and reconnected the CPU cable.
Resat the CPU
Tried various ram combos......

I actually ordered the Mortar Max yesterday just in case it didn't work today and it should arrive on Friday.

Nutty_Death · 17 Jul 2020 at 16:07

Arghhh!!! Just realised that I was actually in the warranty period by a few weeks when I started this but since getting fobbed off by MSI and trying to fix this myself, i'm now a few days out.
Contacted the supplier now but i'm expecting to get push back.

Nutty_Death · 17 Jul 2020 at 16:48

Edited now I've got the new motherboard to test with.

It behaves the same, so now it must either be the CPU or PSU.... Going to be expensive to diagnose

Nutty_Death · 17 Jul 2020 at 22:00

The CPU was bought in 2018, so i've submitted a warranty request with AMD. What a palaver.
I was wrong to blame MSI but I do stand by the shoddy customer service from them.

Nutty_Death · 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45

AMD confirmed the CPU has passed (broken) their inspection and will send a replacement. Hopefully if I'm lucky I might get a 3 series.

I'm actually not convinced that it wasn't a PSU issue though... We'll see.

Nutty_Death · 29 Jul 2020 at 15:57

This has essentially turned into a conversation between Journey and I.

New CPU arrived. A new and boxed 2700x. Unfortunately no upgrade but at least it's a working cpu.

Unfortunately I can't test it as I ended up being able to rma the motherboard and PSU. I wasn't sure which was broken at the time and as I've said I still feel like there may have been issues with the PSU so I'll see what they both say.

Depending on what gets returned and when Ryzen 4000 comes out, I may sell up and upgrade.

Nutty_Death · 29 Jul 2020 at 18:53

These days I think I prefer tinkering and the hunt for new parts then actually using them for much... Between work, the kids and a new one on the way I've not had a great deal of time so I've haven't minded not having my desktop. The next month atleast is a write off with the new baby too.

I really wasn't interested in investing any money in non upgradable parts. So this seems like it might be a good chance to get on a new line. We'll see if there's any news on Ryzen coming out around new consoles launching.

Nutty_Death · 3 Aug 2020 at 19:56

PSU has got replaced. Great service by Corsair, giving me a slight bump to a higher wattage. Despite this being my 2nd RMA with them over 10 years they've always sorted me out at no cost to me.

It's a little odd that both the PSU and CPU have been replaced which does make me question whether they always test them... MSI are sending my old motherboard back with a new CMOS battery, which is fair enough if it actually works.

Nutty_Death · 3 Aug 2020 at 20:43

That's interesting to know. Yes should hopefully be up and running again soon.

Just before the computer failed to post I kept getting drive errors when starting Windows. Presumably because whatever was failing was causing errors to happen. I've seen this happen on my NAS with a dodgy SATA power cable. Anyway hopefully it's something Windows is able to recover from with a restore like it did previously but worst case I need to format and reinstall. I store everything worth keep on my NAS or in the cloud anyway.

Nutty_Death · 8 Aug 2020 at 19:31

For closure. I sold the new 2700x and my old refurbed motherboard and got a 3700x and b550 mortar. Probably not the best time to upgrade but it's cost me about £130 after selling parts, so not that bad.

Essentially have a new PC apart from the graphics card. Even gave my case a deap clean and spent an hour cable managing.

Finally my ram runs at its rated speed using xmp 3600. So I'm happy.

Nutty_Death · 8 Aug 2020 at 19:58

Thanks for the support @Journey . You were the only person who cared.

Nutty_Death · 8 Aug 2020 at 20:48

Journey said:
You've been around here for the best part of a decade, you deserve better from the community TBH.

Can always drop me a PM if you ever need any useless support again.

Thanks again.

I don't expect anything from the community. Just happy that someone was around to help.

Just checked my first order with overclockers that I still have an email for was 2004, must have been when I got my Athlon 64. I also remember losing a forum account at some point and making a new one.
EDIT
Found it http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/members/nuthead53.23395/
Wonder if they can be merged.