Stupid Cyclist

Atrox Moris said:
No personal attacks. The van over took and DIDN'T leave any space and simply started cutting him up. Instead of rushing to where he wanted to be he should have simply waited to slow down and see if the cyclist was going to continue on, or move to the left. Which is good highway code practice and again, something people would do with a motorcyclist. The van driver didn't. He overtook approaching a corner he intended to take without taking into consideration the intended direction of the cyclist. That move would have caused a crash if it had of been a car, motorbike, caravan or donkey. His behaviour afterwards was equally appalling and he deserved everything the courts gave him.
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If the cyclist was a car, and the van cut him up like that and the car crashed into the side or back or him. The van would be at fault for taking away the car's braking distance.

Why does the cyclist have to move to the left anyway? Why can't he hold the lane he was in?
 
support_bae said:
looking for trouble with his head cam
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Clearly he has had problems and wants proof of such problems next time they happen.

support_bae said:
No high vis clothing
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It's a daylight clip and the van driver clearly saw him.



Anyone trying to get into accidents on a pedal bike vs motor vehicles has a deathwish and I think it's ridiculous you're suggesting it.

Even if there is no injury directly from a vehicle-bike impact, unbalancing a bike at speed especially if they are carrying any significant load can cause serious injury.


I don't think it has anything to do with the fact its a cyclist either, it's drivers with their head in their arse trying to cut things too fine. You get idiots like that on motorways dashing across 2-3 lanes at once to make their turning because they've left it far too late to be safe.
 
I commute every day by bike and *always* have one or two drivers cut me up, and I only do a 1/2 mile route. The other day a driver tried to pull across while I was right next to me, and apparently was so annoyed by my presence that 50m or so further down the road he then tried to crush me against a stationary bus.

I've also had my fair share of trouble with pedestrians just stepping straight out into the road without even looking because they can't hear a car.
 
If you add up all the time you have been stuck behind a cyclist, it's probably at least a day. Time stuck there doing nothing while you could be living life.

In other words cyclists have shortened your life by a whole day!! They are slowly KILLING US!
 
I reckon he was fined under the "due care" part for his slamming on of the brakes.

When approaching the corner the cyclist could have moved over a bit more, but you forget that it takes time to move over and although there was room sideways, there wasn't much going forwards. The van driver should have waited like many others do behind me on my cycle commute, some don't but I just let them past as best I can.

That said I don't live in a city or even in a big town so there's less self-righteous make chickens on the road.
 
ChrisJSY said:
I don't make ridiculous maneuvers, I'm a very attentive and aware driver, my spatial skills are very good, I'm curtious to all road users and very often give way, I don't rush but I don't like useless people. I just find it very hard that in the given situation above you can't think of a way out, you can even replay the video and screenshot the area he can move to, yet even this eludes you.

Worst I will ever do is drop down a gear and audibly peeve off those cyclists that drive 2 aside without caring what's behind.


Edit: Don't get me wrong, the van driver had no need to overtake coming so close to a point he needed to slow down, but the fact is despite what he did you shouldn't keep your place JUST BECAUSE you can, he made his move now react, be a nob and drive next to it, or slow down. This cyclist decided, well I have this camera so I'm just going to cycle along side.

Life doesn't work like that, you react to outside events, he had plenty of opportunity to do something else.
If I was the cyclist, I'd have slowed down and not put myself in the position of him ever hitting me.

But that's what's different about me and other people, I don't put myself in those stupid positions to start with, yet some do.
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Your spatial skills and your driving skills are questionable if you cannot see how bad the van drivers manoeuvre was. And it's worrying that you don't think there's a problem. He left no space for the cyclist when approaching the corner, despite the cyclist being well within his rights to use as much of the road as he likes, so well within his rights to shout at the van driver to leave him space and also well within his rights to keep his place "JUST BECAUSE". And the van driver should have left him space like he would have left any other vehicle. He cut him up illegally and is lucky it wasn't a car that ploughed into the side of him or he'd have been facing an expensive insurance repair bill as he was clearly at fault. And then for the van driver to then carry on and run him off the road. Then get out and threaten him.

I repeat my original opinion. The van driver was a tool.
 
This wouldn't work with most cyclists as it'd catch them going through red lights, swerving all over the roads, cutting cars up, riding on the pavements, and generally trying as hard as possible to not abide by a single rule of the highway code.
 
I commute on my bike in London most days and on a separate note I own a decent car and have held a license for more than ten years. I enjoy cycling as a hobby/sport and it's very practical in the city because it's quicker than driving and avoids the rush hour on the tube.

What happened in the video is certainly pretty common, infact I'd say it's probably worse in London because you just don't have proper Traffic Police really. I've actually been thinking about using my GoPro (which I bought for snowboarding) as it looks like it does have some sway if you are involved in an accident from this case.

There seems to be a lot of hate for cyclists here, but I'd imagine the majority with those opinions haven't been in that kind of situation because they don't cycle, nor do they seem to be aware of the highway code as to what rights cyclists actually have.

There's nothing high and mighty about what I'm saying though, there are just as many bad cyclists as there are bad drivers. Infact I was nearly hit by a cyclist who jumped a red light while I was crossing with my food shopping a few minutes ago!

The fact that the OP started harping on about 'road tax' and making wild generalizations shows just how uninformed he is and a plain idiot.
 
Tute said:
This wouldn't work with most cyclists as it'd catch them going through red lights, swerving all over the roads, cutting cars up, riding on the pavements, and generally trying as hard as possible to not abide by a single rule of the highway code.
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I see this a lot also. That said, the more of them take up wearing helmet cams, the more hopefully will be caught out by their own stupidity of uploading themselves engaging in dangerous and illegal actions.
 
Tute said:
This wouldn't work with most cyclists as it'd catch them going through red lights, swerving all over the roads, cutting cars up, riding on the pavements, and generally trying as hard as possible to not abide by a single rule of the highway code.
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And no car driver has ever sped, changed lanes without indicating, tail gated, run a red light, broke late or parked on a double yellow have they. Ever.
 
Russinating said:
And no car driver has ever sped, changed lanes without indicating, tail gated, run a red light, broke late or parked on a double yellow have they. Ever.
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They're not the ones going around with cameras installed to catch others?
 
Watch the whole video and see the the two incidents at roundabouts, one guy flattened and another almost wiped out. I get plenty of stick from the lads at work due to the amount of incidents I have had at the roundabout at the back gate of my workplace.

Hardly a day goes by when I don't have to shout at some idiot who has ingnored the fact that I am indicating my intentions and pulls out in front of me.

If the detractors of cycling would only brave a busy city centre from the saddle of a bike, they would see the idiocy of their fellow drivers and would no doubt, appreciate the danger cyclists face from their own driving ilk.

I tried this with a work colleague who freely admitted to driving as close as he could to the handle bars of any cyclist he spotted. He didn't last a mile and was absolutely terrified by the experience. He now gives cyclists plenty of room. :)
 
The Russians (saw Russinating and it flicked a memory switch) are fond of dash mounted cameras in their cars for insurance purposes. I only know this because ******** is a pool of crazy dash cam footage showing some gnarly near misses or fatal accidents. The Americans like to put them in their childrens cars too so they can see what they're up to.
 
ChrisJSY said:
I'm sorry, the van overtook on the right and left plenty of space, he didn't even hit the cyclist in the first section. All he had to do was slow down.

Get it? Do I have to say it again? All the cyclist had to do was use the brake and slow down a tad and keep behind the overtaking vehicle.

Not enough space? If you want to ride NEXT to a vehicle, expect problems.

Nowhere to go? How about left? There was TONS of room. You're as blind as the cyclist.


No room, herp derpa derp.
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Use Brain
Profit.
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You're assuming that bikes should go out of their way to avoid being hit. The van shouldn't have overtaken in the first place if he wasn't going to pass before the corner. If you actually watch the video instead of posting a clip that's far too early, you would see that the van would have forced the bike off the road if he hadn't shouted at him.

Sorry, but you're completely wrong.
 
Russinating said:
Yes he's got it installed to catch others, but that's like saying people install CCTV outside their home to catch burglars.
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It's always better when you don't have to bother with a camera at all. I know my household doesn't.

Your statement is ridiculous, at best.
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And you're just posting like a butthurt troll. :)
 
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