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He's either a racist and deserves a far longer ban (perhaps remainder of the season based on the fact the FA believe Evras version of events) or he isn't and deserves no longer ban than Evra who also used foul and abusive language.

Quote of the thread right their Ladies & Gents. Despite the vitriol from both set's of fans, this should be a very (pardon the pun and not intended) black and white case.

If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything - Mark Twain

The greatest friend of truth is Time, her greatest enemy is Prejudice, and her constant companion is Humility. - Charles Caleb Colton
 
Guess you missed the point about if negro was used in the context and way Suarez said it it wouldn't be offensive at all never mind racially offensive.

Oh and the FA and evra have both said he isn't a racist.

Context means nothing we live in England not south America and in England negro means negro and is offensive,if I used that word in work I would be sacked on the spot so why should it be diffrent on a football field,he used the word take the punishment!
 
Context means nothing we live in England not south America and in England negro means negro and is offensive,if I used that word in work I would be sacked on the spot so why should it be diffrent on a football field,he used the word take the punishment!

Deary me.
 
This being the best.

Talk about cherry picking, this is your quote in it's entirety

In all the circumstances, we preferred the evidence of Mr Evra. His account was clear and consistent in all material respects. There is no basis for saying that he lied or was mistaken in what he heard. We found that Mr Evra's account is probably what happened.

The start of which statement in relation with the following....

Independent panel found Evra to be a "credible witness" and Suarez to be "unreliable in relation to matters of critical importance".
 
One interesting point from the report; the exchange took place in Spanish and Evra believed the word Negro meant ****** in Spanish, which it didn't. Even before all this happened, even I knew that Negro simply meant black in Spanish. If Evra can misunderstand that, how reliable is the rest of his translation as to what was said?
 
mainly the fact they changed their testimony and suarez said they must have been mistaken? or are you still clutching at straws?

Of course we could take their initial statement that Suarez said 'because you are black' if you prefer?
 
Ok finished it all.
It's very obvious that a case like this is too much to be dealt with by some FA panel: the result for Suarez is so severe I don't see how the FA can say he's guilty.... Probably.. And state that it's acceptable under FA rules to hand out punishment. This isn't a case of " he probably said x players mom is a fat horse" so here, have a 4 match ban.. The result of this case has implications far beyond a football ban, and as such criminal prosecution rules should have been applied.
 
mainly the fact they changed their testimony and suarez said they must have been mistaken? or are you still clutching at straws?

Of course we could take their initial statement that Suarez said 'because you are black' if you prefer?

What straws am I clutching at? I've not given an opinion either way until I've finished reading the report.

It was a general point. If Evra's understanding of the Spanish language is patchy, how reliable is his translation of what Suarez is said to have said? Just like I made the general point that he should have been charged with discrimination if the panel believe he said 'because you are black'.

edit: another point; Evra claimed that the inconsistencies in his accusations regarding the use of the word black & ****** were down to the fact he doesn't like using the word ******. There's a video on youtube that says otherwise.
 
Ok finished it all.
It's very obvious that a case like this is too much to be dealt with by some FA panel: the result for Suarez is so severe I don't see how the FA can say he's guilty.... Probably.. And state that it's acceptable under FA rules to hand out punishment. This isn't a case of " he probably said x players mom is a fat horse" so here, have a 4 match ban.. The result of this case has implications far beyond a football ban, and as such criminal prosecution rules should have been applied.


but that's not under the code of practise that clubs agree to follow is it? they've already said that they applied a heavier weight of evidence due to the severity of the accusation and there's an admission from Suarez that he did call Evra a negro to contend with as well.
 
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