Suggest a "warm" hatch for <£2k

jackoh · 10 Mar 2006 at 23:51

As per title really, there are obvious candidates such as the saxo vtr, cant seem to get anywhere close to that for the money (and be able to insure it, 17 y/o driving for 6 months.)

So, any suggestions?

Thanks

Adz · 10 Mar 2006 at 23:55

306 XSI

cymatty · 10 Mar 2006 at 23:57

jackoh said:
As per title really, there are obvious candidates such as the saxo vtr, cant seem to get anywhere close to that for the money (and be able to insure it, 17 y/o driving for 6 months.)

So, any suggestions?

Thanks

Does the 2k include insurance?

jackoh · 10 Mar 2006 at 23:58

Adz said:
306 XSI

Ins Group 11?

jackoh · 10 Mar 2006 at 23:59

cymatty said:
Does the 2k include insurance?

Haha course not, probly lookin at 1500 to insure whatever i decide on

NickXX · 11 Mar 2006 at 00:01

Xsara Coupe VTR?

cymatty · 11 Mar 2006 at 00:03

jackoh said:
Haha course not, probly lookin at 1500 to insure whatever i decide on

Well you can afford a Saxo VTR then.

mattpc · 11 Mar 2006 at 00:04

Xsara Coupe in the 1.6 8v format is not even really mildly hot tbh. The missus has one and it's nice enough to drive but theres no power unless you rev the nuts off the engine. It's about 90bhp which isn't much really. Go for the VTS if you want something a bit warmer!

NickXX · 11 Mar 2006 at 00:07

mattpc said:
Xsara Coupe in the 1.6 8v format is not even really mildly hot tbh. The missus has one and it's nice enough to drive but theres no power unless you rev the nuts off the engine. It's about 90bhp which isn't much really. Go for the VTS if you want something a bit warmer!

The VTR is a 16v, it's also insurable for someone of this age.

mattx2 · 11 Mar 2006 at 00:12

306 D turbo - can't believe no has mentioned that yet search "screw mod" to see how fast one of these is

NickXX · 11 Mar 2006 at 00:16

mattx2 said:
306 D turbo - can't believe no has mentioned that yet search "screw mod" to see how fast one of these is

That's because suggesting a D-Turbo w/Screw mod for a 17yr old is downright irresponsible. We all know only the most experienced of drivers can tame the beast. :mad:

saitrix · 11 Mar 2006 at 00:22

I don't think even the Stig can tame the 306 TD with screw mod. Haven't you heard thats what he crashed in! :eek:

Oracle · 11 Mar 2006 at 00:49

Nova

geiger · 11 Mar 2006 at 01:21

1.4 Micra, cheapy to buy. IG 4 and approaching 100 bhp per ton which is warm imo

AmDaMan · 11 Mar 2006 at 01:28

NickXX said:
The VTR is a 16v, it's also insurable for someone of this age.

It's 8v it's bigger brother VTS is a 16v lump.

[TW]Fox · 11 Mar 2006 at 01:48

AmDaMan said:
It's 8v it's bigger brother VTS is a 16v lump.

Thats the 1.6, which sucks.

They do a 1.8 16v VTR. It is Group 11 insurance, does 0-60 in in 9.2 seconds, and has all the goodies the VTS has (Rain sensing wipers, climate control, etc) except ABS. The VTS is a 2.0 16v with 170bhp and Group 16 insurance.

It's the Saxo VTR/VTS where the engine sizes are the same but the difference between the two is that one is 8v and one is 16v.

AmDaMan · 11 Mar 2006 at 01:52

Never knew that, what's the year of 1st production of that VTR? Also what's the BHP?

[TW]Fox · 11 Mar 2006 at 01:53

AmDaMan said:
Never knew that, what's the year of 1st production of that VTR? Also what's the BHP?

1998 (Xsara itself was 1997 but not in Coupe form until 1998, and it's 115bhp for the 1.8 16v.

AmDaMan · 11 Mar 2006 at 01:56

So what's the difference between lumps if the VTS makes 170, compared to 115?

Isn't group 11 a bit high for 17y/o + 0NCB? (for the 1.8VTR)

Why are you up so late?

[TW]Fox · 11 Mar 2006 at 01:57

AmDaMan said:
So what's the difference between lumps if the VTS makes 170, compared to 115?

The 1.8 is just a standard 16v 1.8 litre engine, whereas the 2.0 has... 'stuff'. I can't remember what it is about the 2.0 that allows it to develop 170bhp. It's the same engine as found in the 306 GTi-6.

Isn't group 11 a bit high for 17y/o + 0NCB?

Depends where he lives - it's dooable in a decent area. Whether it's advisable or not I don't know, could be a tad quick for a newbie, but it's certainly a good warm hatch.

Why are you up so late?

Just got in from the Union